Situation: Muddled vampire hunter attacks a vampire with three blood and
a murder of crows (for example). Vampire is torpored with first strike.
Does the murder of crows still kill the vampire hunter, or are they a
bit distraught about the slaying of their beloved master?
David Naseby
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Distraught.
Crows (and other retainers) deal their damage during their employer's
strike resolution (the initial strike resolution only, in case of
additional strikes).
If their employer doesn't make it to his strike reoslution phase, ...
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L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com)
Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast.
(*) - Subject to review by Rules Team
> Situation: Muddled vampire hunter attacks a vampire with three blood and
> a murder of crows (for example). Vampire is torpored with first strike.
> Does the murder of crows still kill the vampire hunter, or are they a
> bit distraught about the slaying of their beloved master?
The murder of crows is a retainer, and as such is automatically burned
when the vampire they lie on is burned, so they don't get a chance to
attack.
Rubber Duck
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No doubt LSJ will bring to bear his rapier sharp analysis and gargantuan
database of V:TES lore, but just to quib, the vamp would only be going to
torpor, and as such would not lose the boids. Retainer damage of the
avian or canine variety takes place outside of the strike phase
(methinks). However, going to torpor is an immediate combat ends
(although not technically a "combat ends". If you go to torpor, combat
just ends). I would have to vote with the damage does not get dealt by
Eric Draven's kine...
Chris (full of wack verbiage tonight)
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Chris Shorb
ino...@ix.netcom.com
"How can I describe it?...It's a nightmare land, a place
of death, horrifying in its desolation...Not a tree, not a
flower, not a blade of grass..."
- Herge
> > The murder of crows is a retainer, and as such is automatically burned
> > when the vampire they lie on is burned, so they don't get a chance to
> > attack.
> >
> > Rubber Duck
>
> No doubt LSJ will bring to bear his rapier sharp analysis and gargantuan
> database of V:TES lore, but just to quib, the vamp would only be going to
> torpor, and as such would not lose the boids. Retainer damage of the
> avian or canine variety takes place outside of the strike phase
> (methinks). However, going to torpor is an immediate combat ends
> (although not technically a "combat ends". If you go to torpor, combat
> just ends). I would have to vote with the damage does not get dealt by
> Eric Draven's kine...
Wow....... wow....... wow...... really epic! I like that!
But apart from that: Excuse me, what I said was shit, of course. I
didn't
realize that the Vampire Hunter doesn't do aggravated damage. I had that
in
mind.
Otherwise I totally agree with you opinion - as did LSJ, who was slower
than
me, but more correct. *Ashamed*
Bye,
Rubber Duck
LSJ (VtES Rep) wrote:
>
> Crows (and other retainers) deal their damage during their employer's
> strike resolution (the initial strike resolution only, in case of
> additional strikes).
>
> If their employer doesn't make it to his strike reoslution phase,
LSJ, suppose 2 minions are in combat, and one employs
a murder of crows. Does this mean that if both use a S:CE, that
the crows' damage occurs?
Dan
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No. S:CE terminates the strike resolution phase before any damage is
done. (Rulebook section 8.3)
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LSJ (VtES Rep) wrote:
>
> No. S:CE terminates the strike resolution phase before any damage is
> done. (Rulebook section 8.3)
>
Then how exactly do Catatonic fear and Riposte work?
I know that the card text says something on the order of "deals X damage
during strike resolution..." is it just 'part of the card'???
Brian Emord
bem...@austin.ibm.com
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The latter. They work because they say so.
How they work with strike-resolution effects like Carrion Crows is
unclear, but the Rules Team is working on it.
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