Bob the Malkavian goes to torpor, and is then stolen by a Methuselah by
means grave robbing. Later, I grab Bob with Malkavian Dementia, and the
Methuselah that stole Bob first is ousted before my next untap. What
happens to Bob when my untap rolls around? Does his owner get him, do I
get him, or is he burned?
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Santiago <ia...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> Bob the Malkavian goes to torpor, and is then stolen by a Methuselah by
>means grave robbing. Later, I grab Bob with Malkavian Dementia, and the
>Methuselah that stole Bob first is ousted before my next untap. What
>happens to Bob when my untap rolls around? Does his owner get him, do I
>get him, or is he burned?
Personal opinion: if control of a card reverts to a player who has been
ousted, the card is burned. Will have to see what the others think
of that, though.
Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for
aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
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Isn't that rule actually in the rulebook (It was in Jyhad I think.) As
soon as you are ousted from the game you get all your cards back.
I said:
> > > Bob the Malkavian goes to torpor, and is then stolen by a Methuselah by
> > >means grave robbing. Later, I grab Bob with Malkavian Dementia, and the
> > >Methuselah that stole Bob first is ousted before my next untap. What
> > >happens to Bob when my untap rolls around? Does his owner get him, do I
> > >get him, or is he burned?
Tom said:
> > Personal opinion: if control of a card reverts to a player who has been
> > ousted, the card is burned. Will have to see what the others think
> > of that, though.
Chad Lubrecht said:
> Isn't that rule actually in the rulebook (It was in Jyhad I think.) As
> soon as you are ousted from the game you get all your cards back.
I now add:
That rule is in the rulebook, but notice that Bob's owner is still in
the game; only his most recent controller has been ousted. That's where
the contoversy arises, although I was inclined to favor buring poor
confused Bob, as Tom suggests.
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Chad Lubrecht wrote:
>> Santiago <ia...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:>>>Bob the Malkavian goes to torpor, and is then stolen by a Methuselah
>>>by means grave robbing. Later, I grab Bob with Malkavian Dementia,
>>>and the Methuselah that stole Bob first is ousted before my next
>>>untap. What happens to Bob when my untap rolls around? Does his owner
>>>get him, do I get him, or is he burned?> Isn't that rule actually in the rulebook (It was in Jyhad I think.) As> soon as you are ousted from the game you get all your cards back.
No, because Bob doesn't belong to the stealing Methuselah, but to the
original owner. And because the grave robbing card is only a reminder
it can easily be returned to the stealer without any problem.
I beleave Bob will be burned, because he isn't under the influence of
his original owner (due to the GR), and his current owner is ousted.
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Chad Lubrecht <lubr...@udel.edu> wrote:
>> Personal opinion: if control of a card reverts to a player who has been
>> ousted, the card is burned. Will have to see what the others think
>> of that, though.>Isn't that rule actually in the rulebook (It was in Jyhad I think.) As
>soon as you are ousted from the game you get all your cards back.
You get all the cards you *own* back, yes, and all the other cards you
control are burned as well. But the rules don't really cover what happens
if something you didn't own in the first place was stolen from you, and
you are then ousted.
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