rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Winchester Mansion question

4 messages from 3 participants · 04 March 2007
original thread on Google Groups

Jozxyqk

Relevant excerpt of Winchester Mansion's text: "During each of your master phases, if you do not play a master card from your hand, this vampire burns 1 blood." Let's say my Prey controls Watenda with a Winchester Mansion. During my Master Phase, I play Malkavian Dementia to take control of Watenda. I have no source of additional Master Phase Actions. Is the Winchester Mansion text satisfied by the fact that I played Malk Dementia? Or does Watenda burn a blood?

CthuluKitty

> > Is the Winchester Mansion text satisfied by the fact that > > I played Malk Dementia? > > > Or does Watenda burn a blood? > > Satisfied. Perhaps you could elaborate on why this works as such? I'm assuming that Winchester Mansion checks at the end of the Master Phase whether or not a Master card was played, and sees that Dementia was played. Is this how it works? This leads to another timing question: does the Mansion only trigger at the end of the Master Phase. In other words, if for some contrived reason (possibly involving mandatory actions, or whatever--or maybe Raphael Catarari) I wanted to burn blood off the vampire with the Mansion, could I announce the effect before playing a master card (Mansion checks, sees no card played, burns a blood) and then play a master card? Or does it always wait until the end of the phase?

Jozxyqk

CthuluKitty <vtana...@riseup.net> wrote: > > > Is the Winchester Mansion text satisfied by the fact that > > > I played Malk Dementia? > > > > > Or does Watenda burn a blood? > > > > Satisfied. > Perhaps you could elaborate on why this works as such? The (mechanical) reason I asked the question was because of the Concealed Sniper Rifle effect (i.e. you can't set range with a Sniper Rifle you just pulled out of your pants after blocking). But I can see why Dementia+Winchester would work differently, as Watenda has already changed control when Dementia resolves, so the Mansion "sees" that.

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Well, that and the mechanics of the effect demand a past-checking effect. So even if a non-master-card-play effect moves the Winchester-bearer, the Mansion would still notice if the new "you" has played a master card this phase.