rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Life on Allies

11 messages from 7 participants · 29 June 2001
original thread on Google Groups

Andy Brown

Can Allies increase the amount of life counters on them above their starting amount (I suppose retainers too). I just ask, as we are a bit confused when it comes to allies using cards which give them blood/life (If a card would cost blood, it costs them life instead, If a card would give them blood, give them life instead). Can they go above their starting life, or are additional life counters just burned? Thanks Andy Setite Ruler of Cambridge -- Whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outragous fortune, or get fat on chocolate cake, eat the cake, life is too short to worry!

LSJ

Andy Brown <a...@sanger.ac.uk> wrote: >Can Allies increase the amount of life counters on them above their >starting amount (I suppose retainers too). I just ask, as we are a Yes. >bit confused when it comes to allies using cards which give them >blood/life >(If a card would cost blood, it costs them life instead, If a card would >give them blood, give them life instead). > >Can they go above their starting life, or are additional life >counters just burned? The former. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ

Andy Brown wrote: > > Can Allies increase the amount of life counters on them above their > starting amount (I suppose retainers too). I just ask, as we are a Yes. > bit confused when it comes to allies using cards which give them > blood/life > (If a card would cost blood, it costs them life instead, If a card would > give them blood, give them life instead). > > Can they go above their starting life, or are additional life > counters just burned? The former. [ quoted text not captured ]

legbiter

Andy Brown <a...@sanger.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<3B3C52C5...@sanger.ac.uk>... > Can Allies increase the amount of life counters on them above their > starting amount (I suppose retainers too). I just ask, as we are a > bit confused when it comes to allies using cards which give them > blood/life > (If a card would cost blood, it costs them life instead, If a card would > give them blood, give them life instead). > > Can they go above their starting life, or are additional life > counters just burned? > > Thanks > > Andy > > Setite Ruler of Cambridge Yes, allies can go above their starting life. Put down the Summon Souls and back away from those mummies you bad, bad man.

XZealot

Andy Brown <a...@sanger.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<3B3C52C5...@sanger.ac.uk>... > Can Allies increase the amount of life counters on them above their > starting amount (I suppose retainers too). I just ask, as we are a > bit confused when it comes to allies using cards which give them > blood/life > (If a card would cost blood, it costs them life instead, If a card would > give them blood, give them life instead). > > Can they go above their starting life, or are additional life > counters just burned? There is no limit to allies life counters. This is important for the Succubus and Nephandus, as well as thaumaturgy using allies who play with theft of vitae. Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown Jr. XZealot Archon of the Swamp

Dave Tait

Andy Brown <a...@sanger.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<3B3C52C5...@sanger.ac.uk>... > Can Allies increase the amount of life counters on them above their > starting amount (I suppose retainers too). I just ask, as we are a > bit confused when it comes to allies using cards which give them > blood/life > (If a card would cost blood, it costs them life instead, If a card would > give them blood, give them life instead). > > Can they go above their starting life, or are additional life > counters just burned? > There is no limit to the number of life counters that an ally can have (unless otherwise noted by card text). However, to my knowledge, the only allies that can gain life counters (without having them replaced by vagabond mystic - who can't raise them above initial life) is Talaq using theft of vitae and taking no damage from opponent, rafastio ghoul doing the same, and Kherebhutu and Ahkenaten using a necromancy action that gains then two blood (can't remember it's name, but it's from FN). If anyone knows of any others, please tell.

LSJ

d...@st-and.ac.uk (Dave Tait) wrote: >There is no limit to the number of life counters that an ally can have >(unless otherwise noted by card text). However, to my knowledge, the >only allies that can gain life counters (without having them replaced >by vagabond mystic - who can't raise them above initial life) is Talaq >using theft of vitae and taking no damage from opponent, rafastio >ghoul doing the same, and Kherebhutu and Ahkenaten using a necromancy >action that gains then two blood (can't remember it's name, but it's >from FN). If anyone knows of any others, please tell. Amam the Devourer Nephandus Succubus [ quoted text not captured ]

Jack Crow

[ quoted text not captured ] Shadow Court Satyr (Changeling) + theft of vitae?

Jack Crow

On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:17:05 GMT, vte...@white-wolf.com (LSJ) wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Satyr - Call the Lamprey? Satyr - Tongue of the Serpent? What about Darkness Within? Can mercy for the weak be played agtainst an ally? Palatial estate?

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. Any card that gains blood that is playable by an ally who gains life in stead of blood for playing it will gain him life. >What about Darkness Within? No. He's not a vampire when the card is burned. >Can mercy for the weak be played agtainst an ally? Card text is pretty clear here. >Palatial estate? Card text is sufficient here as well. [ quoted text not captured ]

James Coupe

In message <3b3cc4ea...@news.flrtn1.occa.home.com>, Jack Crow <no...@nowhere.com> writes >Satyr - Call the Lamprey? Yup, but remember it has to be against an ally. (Since they're using at inferioe). >Satyr - Tongue of the Serpent? Fine. You steal blood. >What about Darkness Within? No, it references "this vampire" for a time when the card isn't being played. Satyr only counts a vampire when playing them. (It is "this vampire" which receives the counters.) >Can mercy for the weak be played agtainst an ally? No, by card text. (opposing vampire) >Palatial estate? No, it mentions "this vampire". -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D EBD690ECD7A1F "Analogies can be dangerous, Amanda," he begins, smiling B457CA213D7E6 slightly, "because the world is like a sandcastle..." 68C3695D623D5D