Skill card on inactive vampire.

Mike Kelly <ke...@lmsc.lockheed.com> writes: >JOL 3 is currently having a dissagreement on whether a master skill card may be >played on an inactive vampire. So far it is two for and two against. Anyone >care to point out a rule or ruling to support either side? It may not be played on an uncontrolled vampire, because it does not say that it can be. Without overriding card text, nothing can affect uncontrolled anythings. It may be played on vampires in torpor, tho' since again, it does not have card text restricting such use. Without overriding card text, any card that may be played on a vampire doesn't care whether the vampire is Ready or in Torpor. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | A titanic intellect... http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | In a world full of icebergs. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

schw...@math.uiuc.edu (Gary Schwartz) writes: >In article <4hiaau$g...@redwood.cs.sc.edu>, sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu (L. >Scott Johnson) writes: >>Mike Kelly <ke...@lmsc.lockheed.com> writes: >>>JOL 3 is currently having a dissagreement on whether a master skill card may >be >>>played on an inactive vampire. So far it is two for and two against. Anyone >>>care to point out a rule or ruling to support either side? >> >>It may not be played on an uncontrolled vampire, because it does not >>say that it can be. Without overriding card text, nothing can affect >>uncontrolled anythings. >Boo! When did this happen? I thought that since some masters can only >be played on controlled vamps (like Blood Doll), masters without that >restriction could be played on uncontrolled vamps as well. Blood Doll (at least in the Jyhad version) has restrictive text that it can only be played one one of *your* vampires. This restriction exists to prevnt playing the card on one of your opponent's vampires Not to prevent you from playing it on an uncontrolled vampire (which you can't do anyhow, because of the implicit restriction mentioned above). [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <4hiaau$g...@redwood.cs.sc.edu>, sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu (L. Scott Johnson) writes: >Mike Kelly <ke...@lmsc.lockheed.com> writes: > >>JOL 3 is currently having a dissagreement on whether a master skill card may be >>played on an inactive vampire. So far it is two for and two against. Anyone >>care to point out a rule or ruling to support either side? > >It may not be played on an uncontrolled vampire, because it does not >say that it can be. Without overriding card text, nothing can affect >uncontrolled anythings. Boo! When did this happen? I thought that since some masters can only be played on controlled vamps (like Blood Doll), masters without that restriction could be played on uncontrolled vamps as well. Gary S.

REF <refp...@best.com> wrote: >>Blood Doll (at least in the Jyhad version) has restrictive text that >>it can only be played one one of *your* vampires. This restriction >>exists to prevnt playing the card on one of your opponent's vampires >>Not to prevent you from playing it on an uncontrolled vampire (which >>you can't do anyhow, because of the implicit restriction mentioned >>above). >What a horrid thought! >For my master action I hook up a siphon to one of your vampires and >slowly draw the blood away... Well, no, because it's the controller of the vampire that moves blood onto and off of it. If you play Blood Doll on one of my vampires, you're only doing me a favor. Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.