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LSJ- Remnant of the Endless Storm

10 messages from 6 participants · 28 May 2010 – 30 May 2010
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XZealot

Remnant of the Endless Storm Ally Unique werewolf with 5 life. 1 strength, 0 bleed. Requires a magaji. The Remnant gets +1 strength for each life it has. The Remnant may enter combat with any minion as a (D) action. If any effect does more than 2 damage to the Remnant, ignore the excess. If the Remnant has 4 or fewer life during your untap phase, it gains 1 life from the blood bank. 6 pool Are strikes included under effects?

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. Everything that has any effect is included.

Jonathan_Sicari

[ quoted text not captured ] Including the Argent Baton's burn 4 life as a ranged strike?

LSJ

On May 29, 11:22 am, Jonathan_Sicari <jonathan_sic...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Are strikes included under effects? > > Yes. Everything that has any effect is included. > > Including the Argent Baton's burn 4 life as a ranged strike? How can that be seen as not covered by my answer above?

Blooded Sand

[ quoted text not captured ] The strike against a werewolf does not do damage but burns life, thus could be xcluded from RotES's effect Argent Baton Type: Equipment Unique melee weapon. Strike: strength+1 damage. If the opposing minion is a werewolf, the bearer can make a ranged strike to burn 4 life from that werewolf.

Jozxyqk

[ quoted text not captured ] Well, it isn't damage, is it?

LSJ

On May 29, 12:33 pm, Blooded Sand <sandm...@gmail.com> wrote: > On May 29, 5:37 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > > On May 29, 11:22 am, Jonathan_Sicari <jonathan_sic...@hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Are strikes included under effects? > > > > Yes. Everything that has any effect is included. > > > > Including the Argent Baton's burn 4 life as a ranged strike? > > > How can that be seen as not covered by my answer above? > > The strike against a werewolf does not do damage but burns life, thus > could be xcluded from RotES's effect True. "All strikes are effects (that is, yes 'strikes' are included under 'effects') ", which indeed covers the true fact that the strike with Argent Baton is an effect. Naturally, any effect, strike or otherwise, that does't do damage won't do more than two damage and therefore won't be among the effects covered under Remnant's text, but that doesn't mean the strike in question is not included under "effects".

LSJ

On May 29, 1:02 pm, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] No (card text). But it is an "effect", as covered under "yes. Everything that has any effect is included under 'effects'." above.

Blooded Sand

[ quoted text not captured ] So as AB is covered by the effects part, but not by the damage part, does the strike from AB cause Remnant to burn 2 or 4 life?

suoli

[ quoted text not captured ] Looks pretty unambiguous to me. Argent Baton's life burning strike is an effect (and included under the category of "effects") but not an effect that interacts with the Remnant's text.