rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Rules questions

3 messages from 3 participants · 03 June 1997
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b94...@zipi.fi.upm.es

Hi, I need help about rules. 1.- I have Black Cat equipped with Sengir Dagger and the opossing minion plais Thought Betrayer (at superior). His controller say that Black Cat cant use the Sengir Dagger, is it true or can Black Cat kill that coward vamp? 2.- My dear Gilbert Duane bleed my prey with a modifier of +5 to bleed (it is normal in my deck). My prey plays Archon Investigation (poor Gilbert), can i play in response The 1000 Faces to burn, for example, Normal? If i use the card really Normal is doing the action (with the modifiers of before playing the card) and he is who attemps to bleed. 3.- Can i bleed other Mathusalens who isnt my prey with cards like Computer Hacking? In the book Darkness Unveiled I read I can, but some friends say I cant becouse there is a new card of Dementation which especifes you can bleed any Mathusalen. 4.- How many Masters Out Of Turn can I play between my turns? I think I could play the number I want, but then I lost all that number of master phases (i. e. if i play 3 Masters Out Of Turn between my turn n and my turn n+1 the next master phase I could play is in the turn n+4, 3 turns without master phase) I have others questions, but I dont remember them now. I wait yours answers. Cesar Pinto. P.D.:sorry for my english, I dont speak very well.

Shawn A. Hartley

> 1.- I have Black Cat equipped with Sengir Dagger and the opossing minion plais > Thought Betrayer (at superior). His controller say that Black Cat cant use the > Sengir Dagger, is it true or can Black Cat kill that coward vamp? I believe the latest ruling is that you can't PLAY any cards (from your hand) but cards that are already there (i.e. EQUIPMENT, RETAINERS) can be used. > 2.- My dear Gilbert Duane bleed my prey with a modifier of +5 to bleed (it is > normal in my deck). My prey plays Archon Investigation (poor Gilbert), can i > play in response The 1000 Faces to burn, for example, Normal? If i use the card > really Normal is doing the action (with the modifiers of before playing the > card) and he is who attemps to bleed. Yes. If Normal takes over the action with MASK, it is Normal who would be burned. I'm not TOO sure of the wording on Archon Investigation, that replaced something from Jyhad, and I never bought anymore VTES cards. I just play with my Jyhad cards > 3.- Can i bleed other Mathusalens who isnt my prey with cards like Computer > Hacking? In the book Darkness Unveiled I read I can, but some friends say I > cant becouse there is a new card of Dementation which especifes you can bleed > any Mathusalen. Yes. Since it is a (D) action, you can bleed any Methusaleh. But why? > 4.- How many Masters Out Of Turn can I play between my turns? I think I could > play the number I want, but then I lost all that number of master phases (i. e. > if i play 3 Masters Out Of Turn between my turn n and my turn n+1 the next > master phase I could play is in the turn n+4, 3 turns without master phase) > Sorry...I believe you can only play ONE OOT Master between your turns. Even if you can somehow have more than 1 Master Phase action (ANSON comes to mind), you can only do 1 OOT Master card because the thought is that you might lose Anson (or whatever) before your turn and then you wouldn't be allowed to play another. If this is something you don't like, make a house rule allowing more than 1 OOT Master. That's what I've done in the past. Hope this helps...

L. Scott Johnson

b94...@zipi.fi.upm.es wrote: > 1.- I have Black Cat equipped with Sengir Dagger and the opossing minion plais > Thought Betrayer (at superior). His controller say that Black Cat cant use the > Sengir Dagger, is it true or can Black Cat kill that coward vamp? Black Cat can use the Dagger. Thought's Betrayed only prevents Cat from *playing* cards, not from using cards that are already in play. > 2.- My dear Gilbert Duane bleed my prey with a modifier of +5 to bleed (it is > normal in my deck). My prey plays Archon Investigation (poor Gilbert), can i > play in response The 1000 Faces to burn, for example, Normal? If i use the card > really Normal is doing the action (with the modifiers of before playing the > card) and he is who attemps to bleed. There is no "response" to a Master Card (except Sudden Reversal, which makes that clear by card text). The moment Archon Investigation is played, Gilbert is in the Ash Heap. There is no acting minion, no action, and nothing to modify with Mask. > 3.- Can i bleed other Mathusalens who isnt my prey with cards like Computer > Hacking? In the book Darkness Unveiled I read I can, but some friends say I > cant becouse there is a new card of Dementation which especifes you can bleed > any Mathusalen. Any (D) action can be directed at any Methuselah. This includes all action-card bleeds (except where restricted by card text - like Night Moves or Return to Innocence). > 4.- How many Masters Out Of Turn can I play between my turns? I think I could > play the number I want, but then I lost all that number of master phases (i. e. > if i play 3 Masters Out Of Turn between my turn n and my turn n+1 the next > master phase I could play is in the turn n+4, 3 turns without master phase) Only one, per explicit restriction in the rules. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team