Here's a couple of nifty things for ally decks:
Shadow Court Satyr(changeling):
give him an earth meld/majesty, and he'll always strike: combat ends.
give him a thrown sewer lid and IR goggles and he'll always manouver to long
and hit for 3R.
give him a theft of vitae and he'll steal 1 blood, which gets him a life.
give him a burst of sunlight, it does 1R aggravated damage to all _vampires_ in
combat(effectively turning him into a cheaper order of hermes cabal).
Talaq, the Immortal:
Can use theft of vitae or burst of sunlight, and has a free manouver.
Other weird combos:
Mind of a child + disguised flamethrower rushing.
Malkavian Madness Network + homonculus + fun actions, examples below:
accounting/govern, bring out vampires fast.
the embrace, bring out lots of new small vampires fast.
bleed your prey every turn.
vote every turn.
fifth tradition when the vamp is running low on blood.
example of above combo:
Malkavian Madness Network in play, Greger Anderssen recruits a homonculus.
Greger untaps in his preys turn, and plays superior pulse of the canaille.
Greger untaps in his grandpreys turn, and bleeds his prey.
Greger untaps in the next methusela's turn, and fifth traditions himself.
Greger continues to untap and bleed every turn, or fifth when he's running low
on blood.
There's more weird combos out there... have fun.
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> Malkavian Madness Network + homonculus + fun actions, examples below:
> accounting/govern, bring out vampires fast.
> the embrace, bring out lots of new small vampires fast.
> bleed your prey every turn.
> vote every turn.
> fifth tradition when the vamp is running low on blood.
Got a deck that does that (well, minus the 5th):
http://www.melancholy.org/vtes/regions/united_states/louisiana/domain-no/dec
ks/listings/deck_list.php3?archive=christoph&deck=protean+dominate+s%26b+wit
h+madness+network
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> Malkavian Madness Network + homonculus + fun actions, examples below:
> accounting/govern, bring out vampires fast.
> the embrace, bring out lots of new small vampires fast.
> bleed your prey every turn.
> vote every turn.
> fifth tradition when the vamp is running low on blood.
>
> example of above combo:
> Malkavian Madness Network in play, Greger Anderssen recruits a homonculus.
> Greger untaps in his preys turn, and plays superior pulse of the canaille.
> Greger untaps in his grandpreys turn, and bleeds his prey.
> Greger untaps in the next methusela's turn, and fifth traditions himself.
> Greger continues to untap and bleed every turn, or fifth when he's running
low
> on blood.
Also, MN works well with
2nd tradition - Obedience + First tradition.: untap + block AND stay
untapped to act, you don't really need your turn.
Reversal of fortune / Dramatic upheaval / kindred restructure: you decide
who will get extra turns and who won't.
In malk with protean example: include Bum's rush, wolf claws and Rotschreck:
a malk OoT Rush deck.
Other neat combos (difficult to pull off):
Multiple Masquerade Enforcements + Leandro + Banishment
Terror Frenzy(inf) + Aid from Bats + Spawning Pool
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:02:29 +0000 (UTC),
thermon...@rocketmail.com (Mikael Hallin) wrote:
>Here's a couple of nifty things
Aha! finally!
>
>Shadow Court Satyr(changeling):
>give him an earth meld/majesty, and he'll always strike: combat ends.
Yep I like that one too.
>give him a burst of sunlight, it does 1R aggravated damage to all _vampires_ in
>combat(effectively turning him into a cheaper order of hermes cabal).
>
>Talaq, the Immortal:
>Can use theft of vitae or burst of sunlight, and has a free manouver.
>
Nice!
>
>
>Other weird combos:
>Mind of a child + disguised flamethrower rushing.
>
I dont get this one....mind of a chile, if successful, takes the vamps
disc. access away. Seems unrelated to the disg flamethrower rush to
me. A lure into combat of course, but you could always bleed and
accept the block instead if combats what you want (unless your preys a
deflector of course).
>Malkavian Madness Network + homonculus + fun actions,
Hello Zebulon!
>
>There's more weird combos out there... have fun.
>
>___
Cheers!
T
<Talo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3ae8362a.237084356@news...
> >Other weird combos:
> >Mind of a child + disguised flamethrower rushing.
> >
>
> I dont get this one....mind of a chile, if successful, takes the vamps
> disc. access away.
Right.
So they can't play Majesty or any other Strike Combat Ends, or any
form of damage prevention during the combat.
> Seems unrelated to the disg flamethrower rush to
> me.
Then you didn't look hard enough.
> A lure into combat of course, but you could always bleed and
> accept the block instead if combats what you want (unless your preys a
> deflector of course).
You're playing with Malks/!Malks, only an intercept deck is going to attempt
to block and allow you to cycle the stealth they think you will have.
In article <HVHE6.172137$wx.25...@typhoon.austin.rr.com>,
The Lasombra <thela...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[Mind o' Child]
>Right.
>So they can't play Majesty or any other Strike Combat Ends, or any
>form of damage prevention during the combat.
Except for the unfairly-maligned Mercy for the Weak, of course.
gomi
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My absolute favourite combo with Malks is
Time Auction
Malkavian Dementia
Sell your malk, then take him back for long enough to finish the deed.
I love it.
Disguised Bombs and Basil are fun, too.
BTW why the heck would anyone use Concealed weapons?
umur...@cc.umanitoba.ca schrieb:
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I know 2 theories:
1) the card should be disciplineless - good thing it isn't, otherwise, can
you say "1 cap wennie with concealed bombs deck"?
2) It would be useful under a cardlimit...
Any other suggestions?
Thomas
Thomas Pichler skrev i meddelandet <3AEA7A02...@aon.at>...
>umur...@cc.umanitoba.ca schrieb:
>>> My absolute favourite combo with Malks is
>>
>> Time Auction
>> Malkavian Dementia
>>
>> Sell your malk, then take him back for long enough to finish the deed.
>> I love it.
>>
>> Disguised Bombs and Basil are fun, too.
>>
>> BTW why the heck would anyone use Concealed weapons?>
>I know 2 theories:
>1) the card should be disciplineless - good thing it isn't, otherwise, can
>you say "1 cap wennie with concealed bombs deck"?
Can you say "bombs really can be concealed" without lying?
>2) It would be useful under a cardlimit...
>
>Any other suggestions?
>
>Thomas
We played with Concealed weapon as a dsicplineless card for several years,
and never considered it broken... Of course, we've always used more
equipment than the average metagame, but is that really a bad thing? Better
that than to leave the equipment to rot in te cellar... IMVuHO
Of course, now we've had to obey the official rules as we've started to play
official yournaments, but in recreational games, everyone can conceal!
/Henke
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That's four cards played as well as four blood that you can not get back
with Taste of Vitae. Since your vampire already has superior Potence, try
this instead:
Arms of the Abyss
[major strike followed by Taste of Vitae if blood is low]
Disarm
Decapitate (-2 blood)
This assumes the same POT/OBT combo but I think it's more economical.
> > "Dark Howler" <darkh...@bastardsquad.org> wrote in message
> > news:tirJ6.4216$76.1...@news1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au...
> > > My fav combo is
> > > bums rush
> > > Arm's of the Abyss (at superior)
> > > Entombment
> > > Decapatate
> > >
> > > no one expects the decap hehehe
> >
> > That's four cards played as well as four blood that you can not get back
> > with Taste of Vitae. Since your vampire already has superior Potence,
try
> > this instead:
> >
> > Arms of the Abyss
> > [major strike followed by Taste of Vitae if blood is low]
> > Disarm
> > Decapitate (-2 blood)
> >
> > This assumes the same POT/OBT combo but I think it's more economical.
>
> Except that it can be prevented of course.
>
I wonder if i'm the only fool still using amaranth since the coming of the
ultra popular decapitate ??
reyda
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I prefer Amaranth before Decapitate definately. It's more fun and you have a
possibility of gaining a skill card and extra blood, plus Ritual of the BR
adds even more blood. The problem is to avoid getitng burned in the blood
hunt. For this purpose Decapitate is nice for clans who doesn't have neither
vote lock nor means to cancel blood hunts etc. I don't like to rely on table
dealing when I make an Amaranth deck. However with Absolution of the
Diabolist, Gangrel Conspiracy, Reform Body, disposable weenies, soul Gem of
Etrius or vote lock there's pretty many clans who can make viable amaranth
decks.
"Roger Carhult" <rogc...@student.luth.se> wrote
> Except that it can be prevented of course.
Sure. It can also be hosed by S:CE unless an Immortal Grapple is played but
what can you do?
>I prefer Amaranth before Decapitate definately. It's more fun and you have a
>possibility of gaining a skill card and extra blood, plus Ritual of the BR
>adds even more blood. The problem is to avoid getitng burned in the blood
>hunt. For this purpose Decapitate is nice for clans who doesn't have neither
>vote lock nor means to cancel blood hunts etc. I don't like to rely on table
>dealing when I make an Amaranth deck. However with Absolution of the
>Diabolist, Gangrel Conspiracy, Reform Body, disposable weenies, soul Gem of
>Etrius or vote lock there's pretty many clans who can make viable amaranth
>decks.
Just to doublecheck, but will Reform Body really save you from a bloodhunt? I'm
assuming that the referendum is called outside of combat? And since no reaction
cards can be played during the referendum, does this mean Reform Body as a
Reaction cannot be played by the diablerist? Or is the burning part after the
referendum so you can Reform. I looked through the rulebook but couldn't find
anything more specific about it. Thanks!
Halcyan 2
[snip]
> I prefer Amaranth before Decapitate definately. It's more fun and you have
a
> possibility of gaining a skill card and extra blood, plus Ritual of the BR
> adds even more blood. The problem is to avoid getitng burned in the blood
> hunt. For this purpose Decapitate is nice for clans who doesn't have
neither
> vote lock nor means to cancel blood hunts etc. I don't like to rely on
table
> dealing when I make an Amaranth deck. However with Absolution of the
> Diabolist, Gangrel Conspiracy, Reform Body, disposable weenies, soul Gem
of
> Etrius or vote lock there's pretty many clans who can make viable amaranth
> decks.
>
>
Are you suggesting that Reform Body will save you from a Blood Hunt? A Blood
Hunt is called after combat and is not an action therefore Reform Body
cannot be played.[Rulebook 6.5.6]
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AFAIR LSJ said it's still in combat since the Bloodhunt is called
immediately. You couldn't play reactioncards if it was outside combat
though. Hmm LSJ answer this?
Roger
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Yes but the possibility of IG is good since Entombment wouldn't work then.
One thing that makes the Entombment combo a lil bit better is the
possibility of the Path of Night. Buning a vampire for 3 blood is quite
acceptable.
Roger Carhult wrote:
> AFAIR LSJ said it's still in combat since the Bloodhunt is called
> immediately. You couldn't play reactioncards if it was outside combat
> though. Hmm LSJ answer this?
The bloodhunt is not combat. Combat cards cannot be played during a
bloodhunt. The bloodhunt is not an action. Reaction cards cannot
be played during a bloodhunt.
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