Bay and Howl

"Move 1 blood from each ready Gangrel antitribu you control to a Gangrel antitribu in your uncontrolled region." When this card is played, can the "donated" blood be split amongst multiple uncontrolled !Gangrel? It seems like yes.

[ quoted text not captured ] ah. it looks like you're looking at it like "move one blood from this guy to a !gangrel, move one blood from this guy to a !gang (who may or may not be the same one), move one blood from this guy, etc". Whereas I think it works more like: Move 1 blood from each ready Gangrel antitribu you control (so collect up one blood from each of them) to a Gangrel antitribu in your uncontrolled region (just one guy, as noted by "a") -- salem http://users.tpg.com.au/adsltqna/vtes/ (replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email)

Salem <salem_ch...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Jozxyqk wrote: > > "Move 1 blood from each ready Gangrel antitribu you control to a Gangrel > > antitribu in your uncontrolled region." > > > > When this card is played, can the "donated" blood be split amongst multiple > > uncontrolled !Gangrel? It seems like yes. > ah. it looks like you're looking at it like "move one blood from this > guy to a !gangrel, move one blood from this guy to a !gang (who may or > may not be the same one), move one blood from this guy, etc". > Whereas I think it works more like: > Move 1 blood from each ready Gangrel antitribu you control > (so collect up one blood from each of them) > to > a Gangrel antitribu in your uncontrolled region > (just one guy, as noted by "a") Well, by "standard templating", to work the way you suggest, I think it would have to be worded: "Choose a Gangrel Antitribu in your uncontrolled region. Each ready Gangrel Antitribu you control moves a blood to that Gangrel Antitribu." Or something similar. Either way, it doesn't matter an incredible amount. And I'm still not exactly sure what I'm going to use B+H for (i.e. when is it signficantly better than Tribute?); I just happened to come across it again while sorting cards.

Jozxyqk wrote: > Either way, it doesn't matter an incredible amount. And I'm still not > exactly sure what I'm going to use B+H for (i.e. when is it signficantly > better than Tribute?); I just happened to come across it again while > sorting cards. It isn't often better than Tribute. If you have an all !Gangrel deck, and have a lot of B+B in there, it is better than Tribute early (as it helps you get more vampires out faster, assuming you can draw some early) but worse than Tribute later (as you need to pull the blood off an uncontrolled vampire 2 at a time). I think the best possible use is in some sort of deck with 5x Enkidu and 7x little !Gangrel as back up, as it helps you get Enkidu out fast, and later in the game, you'll probably have a second uncontrolled Enkidu in your uncontrolled reigon to transfer off of anyway. I mean, like, I'm not imagining this as a really good deck or anything. But probably the best place to start to maximize B+H... -Peter

pd...@lightlink.com wrote: > It isn't often better than Tribute. If you have an all !Gangrel deck, > and have a lot of B+B in there, it is better than Tribute early (as it > helps you get more vampires out faster, assuming you can draw some > early) but worse than Tribute later (as you need to pull the blood off > an uncontrolled vampire 2 at a time). I think the best possible use is > in some sort of deck with 5x Enkidu and 7x little !Gangrel as back up, > as it helps you get Enkidu out fast, and later in the game, you'll > probably have a second uncontrolled Enkidu in your uncontrolled reigon > to transfer off of anyway. I mean, like, I'm not imagining this as a > really good deck or anything. But probably the best place to start to > maximize B+H... I was starting to think more along the lines of an Una deck, where she creates Creation Rites and Embraces, calls Rumors of Gehenna, drops a Hungry Coyote, and you just keep B+Hing twice every turn to uber-bloat while the Creation Rites hunt, and you get, like, a free Genevieve out of it or something... I don't really know, though.

Salem wrote: > Jozxyqk wrote: > > "Move 1 blood from each ready Gangrel antitribu you control to a Gangrel > > antitribu in your uncontrolled region." > > > > When this card is played, can the "donated" blood be split amongst multiple > > uncontrolled !Gangrel? It seems like yes. > > ah. it looks like you're looking at it like "move one blood from this > guy to a !gangrel, move one blood from this guy to a !gang (who may or > may not be the same one), move one blood from this guy, etc". > > Whereas I think it works more like: > > Move 1 blood from each ready Gangrel antitribu you control > > (so collect up one blood from each of them) > > to > > a Gangrel antitribu in your uncontrolled region > > (just one guy, as noted by "a") Correct.

pd...@lightlink.com wrote: > It isn't often better than Tribute. If you have an all !Gangrel deck, > and have a lot of B+B in there, it is better than Tribute early (as it > helps you get more vampires out faster, assuming you can draw some > early) but worse than Tribute later (as you need to pull the blood off > an uncontrolled vampire 2 at a time). > -Peter Earlier this evening I saw B+H used to move 4 blood to an uncontrolled. Two of it was moved back to Pool in influence, and Jesus Alcala brought into play!! Just about perfect.