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Question: Strike resolution, agg damage

3 messages from 3 participants · 02 December 1994 – 04 December 1994
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Jon Michael Coats

I asked this a while back, and never saw an answer, so here's a repost question 1:) If felicia bum rushes Basilia using her .44 magnum to maneuver to range, then loads dragonbreath rounds into the gun as she strikes (basilia had no strikes, caught her at a bad time)...and so does 4 damage, 2 normal then 2 aggravated, and blurs to do 2 additional strikes intending to burn basilia...what i want to know, is that even possible/necessary since when that original strike resolves , before additional strikes are played, basilia goes into torpor...The rulebook says that is order of combat, maneuver, declare strikes, resolve strikes, additional strikes, etc. SO..what i want to know is **** is a vampire going to torpor from a strike allowed to be hit by additional strikes or does the aggravated strike resolve and thus end combat right there...i would think you cannot hit someone once they're in torpor, but my friends thought that sounded more reasonable than combat ending suddenly .. OK, so if it is that way, and the orig strike puts the vamp in torpor, combat ends..what about? question 2:) same thing, but against gunther, who prevents the two aggravated damage from the first strike, and so is at 5 blood when i hit him with two more strikes of 2 normal damage, 2 aggravated damage..what happens?? does one strike resolve, he goes to torpor with 2 blood on him before the other strike can be resolved? or do both resolve simultaneously and he is ashed? question 3:) If Felicia(5), armed with her trusty .44 Magnum, is attacks Gunther (7), who foolishly parked his coffin out in a Target Parking Lot (Haven Uncovered) and maneuvers to range and then strikes with dodge for her first strike , anticipating a canine hordes to destroy her gun, and Gunther does indeed try to destroy her gun with first strike, does the dodge cancel a first strike action,or does he kill the gun ? I've heard a dodge cancels any strike, excepting 'combat ends' strikes, but I didn't know if that applied to first strike or something with other effects like body of sun....if someone dodges a body of sun, do all other participating minions still get hit by the damage? what about retainers on the dodging vampire, are they dodging as well that way? thanks.. thumper ---=o: jmc...@artsci.wustl.edu

Josh Hsu

I don't think you really have a problem because the dragon breath rounds burn the gun immediately after use...ie if you use them on the first strike, the gun is burned and can't be used for the second or third strikes.

Tom Wylie

Jon Michael Coats <jmc...@artsci.wustl.edu> wrote: >If felicia bum rushes Basilia using her .44 magnum to maneuver to range, >then loads dragonbreath rounds into the gun as she strikes (basilia had >no strikes, caught her at a bad time)...and so does 4 damage, 2 normal >then 2 aggravated, and blurs to do 2 additional strikes... As soon as Basilia takes the aggravated damage, she goes to torpor, before you get a chance to use additional strikes. You would have to use Dragonbreath Rounds on the last strike to get all three of them; note that if you do use them on the first strike, the gun is burned, so you will have to find some other ranged strike to damage Basilia (assuming she prevents the aggravated damage, and thus you get your additional strikes). >same thing, but against gunther, who prevents the two aggravated >damage from the first strike, and so is at 5 blood when i hit him with two >more strikes of 2 normal damage, 2 aggravated damage..what happens?? >does one strike resolve, he goes to torpor with 2 blood on him before the >other strike can be resolved? Right. Each additional strike resolves separately. >If Felicia(5), armed with her trusty .44 Magnum, attacks Gunther (7), >who foolishly parked his coffin out in a Target Parking Lot (Haven >Uncovered) and maneuvers to range and then strikes with dodge for her >first strike , anticipating a canine hordes to destroy her gun... Assuming Felicia used the gun to maneuver, she must use the gun as her first strike of the round. She cannot choose to dodge at that time. To answer the general question, it's up in the air whether a non-first strike dodge will beat a first strike of some kind. >if someone dodges a body of sun, do all other participating >minions still get hit by the damage? what about retainers on the dodging >vampire, are they dodging as well that way? I believe a dodged strike is neutralized completely, not just neutralized for the dodging vampire, but I can't seem to find a reference, so will check on that. Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@hal.com Wizards of the Coast, Inc.