Obedience (again...)

It is a reaction card, right ? So, I get Rushed, I intercept and Smasher, the Bone-breaking Rusher shuts his mlouth and goes back to bed. What if I don't intercept, just let the rush action continue : can I still react with Obedience ? -- Yours, Orpheus, Prince of Marseille http://no.exit.free.fr (onlive novel) http://cypheranima.free.fr (goth band) news://news.zoo-logique.org/VTES-francophone audio...@yahoogroups.com

>It is a reaction card, right ? So, I get Rushed, I intercept and Smasher, >the Bone-breaking Rusher shuts his mlouth and goes back to bed. > >What if I don't intercept, just let the rush action continue : can I still >react with Obedience ? Yes and yes. Obedience is usable if you block an action and are entering combat *or* whether you're just getting attacked. (Assuming in both cases that you can play Reaction cards. Need to be untapped or have played Wake/FA). Halcyan 2

Halcyan 2 wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] The above came up during the Watford tournament. Block, Majesty (at superior) at which time the acting minion plays Psyche. Question that arose was if Obediance was legal at this time or not. Sten During

Sten During wrote: > Block, Majesty (at superior) at which time the acting minion plays > Psyche. Question that arose was if Obediance was legal at this time > or not. It's legal. But the blocking minion is tapped, so cannot play reaction cards (like Obedience) unless some other effect (like Wake) allows it. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Sten During <ya...@netg.se> wrote in message news:<3CCE6B9B...@netg.se>... [ quoted text not captured ] My gut says no, you can't do this, however, looking at the card text, I reckon you can: Psyche! (in part) 'Only usable at the end of a combat when both combatants are still ready. Enter combat with the opposing minion. This is a new combat.' Obedience 'Only usable when this reacting vampire is about to enter combat with an acting younger vampire. [dom] This vampire is not tapped and combat does not occur; untap the acting vampire. The acting vampire is blocked and cannot attempt the same action this turn. [DOM] As above, but do not untap the acting vampire. It's probably a close call, but I don't see why not... Marty P.S. Hopefully I'll get to play you next time Sten :)

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3CCE84E1...@white-wolf.com... > Sten During wrote: > > Block, Majesty (at superior) at which time the acting minion plays > > Psyche. Question that arose was if Obediance was legal at this time > > or not. > > It's legal. But the blocking minion is tapped, so cannot play > reaction cards (like Obedience) unless some other effect (like > Wake) allows it. > I'm not sure whether or not your response takes into account that Majesty was played at superior, with the reacting vampire untapping. Does the untap happen before Psyche restarts combat? I would guess it would have to, since previous rulings have stressed that a card's effects happen all together and are never split by other effects. However, it has also been ruled that other effects on a combat ends strike happen after combat. Help?

Chris Berger wrote: > > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message > news:3CCE84E1...@white-wolf.com... > > Sten During wrote: > > > Block, Majesty (at superior) at which time the acting minion plays > > > Psyche. Question that arose was if Obediance was legal at this time > > > or not. > > > > It's legal. But the blocking minion is tapped, so cannot play > > reaction cards (like Obedience) unless some other effect (like > > Wake) allows it. > > > I'm not sure whether or not your response takes into account that Majesty was > played at superior, with the reacting vampire untapping. Quite right. If the Majestic minion chooses to burn a blood to untap, that would suffice. Sorry for the oversight. [ quoted text not captured ]