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Warsaw Station and Domain Challenge

6 messages from 5 participants · 16 February 2009 – 17 February 2009
original thread on Google Groups

Jozxyqk

When does Warsaw Station's "the acting Nosferatu untaps" happen? In the case of a Political Action, is it before referendum, after referendum, or Methuselah's Choice? Specifically, this is relevant to Domain Challenge, of course, but there may be other cases...

John Flournoy

[ quoted text not captured ] "You may tap this card when a Nosferatu announces an undirected action. If that action is successful, the acting Nosferatu untaps. You may burn this card (even if it is tapped) to move a Nosferatu in torpor to the ready region." Rulings page: "Cards and abilities that are usable only after a successful action are used after the action is completed, including any oustings." I'd say that since Warsaw triggers on a successful action as the requirement, it'd have to be after completion (and thus after the resolution, including referendums.) -John Flournoy

LSJ

John Flournoy wrote: > I'd say that since Warsaw triggers on a successful action as the > requirement, it'd have to be after completion (and thus after the > resolution, including referendums.) Correct.

Juggernaut1981

[ quoted text not captured ] The card requires it to be tapped immediately, but are referendums considered failed actions if they are defeated by votes? Is this similar to the "Bleed for 0" scenario of a successful action resulting in an unsuccessful bleed?

Chris Berger

On Feb 16, 4:56 pm, Juggernaut1981 <brasscompo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 17, 7:41 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > > John Flournoy wrote: > > > I'd say that since Warsaw triggers on a successful action as the > > > requirement, it'd have to be after completion (and thus after the > > > resolution, including referendums.) > > > Correct. > > The card requires it to be tapped immediately, but are referendums > considered failed actions if they are defeated by votes? > Is this similar to the "Bleed for 0" scenario of a successful action > resulting in an unsuccessful bleed? Nope.

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] That's "Nope" to the first question and "yep" to the second. The action is successful if it resolves unblocked.