[LSJ] Arms of the Abyss vs. Scorpion Sting

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:27:10 GMT, Ethan Burrow <saa...@yahoo.com> wrote: >Would like your wisdom on following possibilities : > >1) Acting Minion plays Arms of the Abyss (or Acrobatics) at superior as >their strike, and reacting minion plays Scorpion Sting. Does the >Acting minion still get the additional strike. I'd say yes. Acting minion gets no strike for his first strike, of course - but the card text confers both a dodge *and* an additional strike during that round. The SS negates only the dodge, much like playing intercept against Bonding only negates the stealth, not the extra +1 bleed. >2) Acting minion strikes with Scorpion Sting, can reacting minion still >play Arms of the Abyss (take the damage since they cannot dodge) and >get the additional strike? however, here, you can't dodge in the first place, so I'd say you can't play a Dodge card at all - again like Bonding, which can't be played at superior if you can't use both halves. -- Derek Jack-Booted Thug of Atlanta

Would like your wisdom on following possibilities : 1) Acting Minion plays Arms of the Abyss (or Acrobatics) at superior as their strike, and reacting minion plays Scorpion Sting. Does the Acting minion still get the additional strike. 2) Acting minion strikes with Scorpion Sting, can reacting minion still play Arms of the Abyss (take the damage since they cannot dodge) and get the additional strike? ------------------------------- Ethan Burrow - Prince of Austin et...@ddg.com http://whitestar.ddg.com/vtes/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Ethan Burrow <saa...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >1) Acting Minion plays Arms of the Abyss (or Acrobatics) at > >superior as [his] strike, and reacting minion plays Scorpion Sting. > >Does the Acting minion still get the additional strike? > > I'd say yes. Acting minion gets no strike for his first strike, of > course - but the card text confers both a dodge *and* an additional > strike during that round. The SS negates only the dodge, much like > playing intercept against Bonding only negates the stealth, not the > extra +1 bleed. Correct. > >2) Acting minion strikes with Scorpion Sting, can reacting minion > >still play Arms of the Abyss (take the damage since they cannot > >dodge) and get the additional strike? > > however, here, you can't dodge in the first place, so I'd say you > can't play a Dodge card at all - again like Bonding, which can't be > played at superior if you can't use both halves. Hmm. I read Scorpion Sting as meaning that the strike cannot be dodged, not that the opposing minion cannot play a dodge as his strike (like S:CE cannot be dodged but doesn't prevent the opponent from trying). So, yes, You can play Arms of the Abyss for a futile dodge. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ [ quoted text not captured ]