(LSJ) Malkavian Dementia + Reality doubt.

Ok, I seem to remember that when you control a minion under a temporary control effect (malkavian dementia, temptation, etc) if somehow he stops being controlled (banishment, reality, etc.) he will return to his owner's (or original controller, whatever) uncontrolled region / ash heap. Is this true? Or if I reality a minion I just stole from another methuselah, will it go into my Uncontrolled Region? I couldn't find official rulling on the newsgroup (but my google-fu is weakish). relevant card texts. Malkavian Dementia [Jyhad:U, VTES:U] Cardtype: Master Clan: {-none-} Master. Take control of a ready Malkavian that another Methuselah controls until your next untap phase. Artist: Anson Maddocks Reality [FN:C2] Cardtype: Action Cost: 3 blood Discipline: Chimerstry [chi] (D) Put Reality on a younger vampire. The vampire with this card cannot be the target of (D) actions, cannot act (except to burn this card), cannot block and cannot cast votes. That vampire can burn Reality as a +1 stealth action. [CHI] (D) Move a tapped younger vampire to [the uncontrolled region(breaking any temporary control effects)]. The vampire's blood counters, master cards and minion cards stay with that vampire, with any counters they have on them (those cards are out of play as long as the vampire remains uncontrolled).

Franz <franman...@yahoo.com.br> wrote: >Ok, I seem to remember that when you control a minion under a >temporary control effect (malkavian dementia, temptation, etc) if >somehow he stops being controlled (banishment, reality, etc.) he will >return to his owner's (or original controller, whatever) uncontrolled >region / ash heap. Is this true? Yes. http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=rulings # Cards that go into an ash heap, hand, or library always go into their owner's ash heap, hand, or library. [RTR 19970425] # Temporary control effects are ended if the vampire is Banished, as normal, so the vampire would be placed in his previous (permanent) controller's uncontrolled region. [RTR 20000501] -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D YOU ARE IN ERROR. EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 NO-ONE IS SCREAMING. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.

On May 12, 6:26 pm, James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote: > Franz <franmantovan...@yahoo.com.br> wrote: > >Ok, I seem to remember that when you control a minion under a > >temporary control effect (malkavian dementia, temptation, etc) if > >somehow he stops being controlled (banishment, reality, etc.) he will > >return to his owner's (or original controller, whatever) uncontrolled > >region / ash heap. Is this true? > > Yes. > > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=rulings > > # Cards that go into an ash heap, hand, or library always go into > their owner's ash heap, hand, or library. [RTR 19970425] > > # Temporary control effects are ended if the vampire is Banished, as > normal, so the vampire would be placed in his previous (permanent) > controller's uncontrolled region. [RTR 20000501] Correct.