TWD VtES Finnish Nationals 2025

VtES Finnish Nationals 2025 Vantaa, Finland 12 April 2025 3R + F 39 Players Teemu Sainomaa www.vekn.net/event-calendar/event/12069 Deck Name: Toreador wall Description: Crypt (12 cards, min=26 max=41 avg=8.42) 4x Anneke 10 AUS CEL PRE dom justicar Toreador:1 4x Anson 8 CEL PRE aus dom prince Toreador:1 1x Alexandra 11 ANI AUS CEL PRE dom inner circle Toreador:2 1x Marcellus 8 AUS CEL pro prince Toreador:2 1x Tatiana Romanov 7 AUS cel pre prince Toreador:1 1x Zöe 3 AUS cel obf Malkavian:2 Library (89 cards) Master (31; 8 trifle) 1x Art Museum 9x Ashur Tablets 1x Auspex 1x Bleeding the Vine 2x Direct Intervention 1x Dreams of the Sphinx 1x Erciyes Fragments, The 1x Fame 1x Giant's Blood 1x Papillon 1x Parthenon, The 1x Powerbase: Montreal 1x Rack, The 1x Society of Leopold 1x Vessel 6x Villein 1x Wider View Equipment (10) 8x .44 Magnum 1x Bowl of Convergence 1x Heart of Nizchetus Reaction (20) 5x Eyes of Argus 3x My Enemy's Enemy 1x On the Qui Vive 6x Second Tradition: Domain 5x Telepathic Misdirection Combat (26) 7x Concealed Weapon 5x Infernal Pursuit 6x Psyche! 6x Pursuit 2x Taste of Vitae Event (2) 1x Nightmares upon Nightmares 1x Scourge of the Enochians

So, Fame and Anneke has +1 bleed, thats the win-cons? "My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."

Looks like in modern day VtES, when everybody is playing combat, you don't need wincons any more. NC Russia

Considering that the finals table had at one point total of 34 votes in it waiting for the TDA listing might give more accurate reading on how, what and why. But as long as there's no requirement to post more then the winning decks it's easy to understand how such conclusions can be reached. I've included the three week old photo from the event page showing final five pull, mind you the eventual TDA gives much more insight on how the win-cons and whatnot worked on that table.VEKN could consider making it a requirement for nationals and champs to release all final decks in prey-predator and starting order (the Kasim Beyar and cam royalty deck started here) to help people understand sooner "how". This time it was most likely vote heavy tournament where wall deck with enough votes and good table talk could wrangle itself to endgame and dominate it to turn just VP's to GWs. Tho I'm not good enough tournament player to pull that level of analysis off. I personally know that on round 3 I was Teemu's prey with lasombra progeny&boon funny deck that got at least 2 hostile actions/effects with either pool loss/prevent of pool gain from each player on the five player table where scourge was played on turn 2, culminating in the grand predator spirit marionette my untapped full blood reaction prince that got heideled to 1 and then forced -> bleed to torpor at Teemu's .44 magnum blocker. At that point and with the constant slow pool gain Teemu had total of 9 bleed on vamps alone with mine tapped/torpored so I naturally dropped, followed by my prey ousting my grandprey leaving the wall deck in optimal situation, 45 mins left on the clock with 1 vp and 3 player game where prey is vote deck close enough to AAA that edge is deciding and predator with no votes that seems to fear going forward. So wall played steady to oust the two and get yet another GW. But Teemu had gained enough GW's and VP's from rounds 1 and 2 to make it to finals so my poor counter talk abilities only affected first seed positioning. At least I tried to point out during the game how Montreal had already bloated out five, how Teemu will roll the table, how I should be kept alive as I had enough stealth to reach votes while also ensuring my prey could get to voting without being blocked as well and my protected resources meant I was not going to suddenly go full S&B downstream. Incidentally, Teemu with multiple +1 bleed vamps hard countered that protected resources and it only helped against the bounced bleeds with no spying mission. So yeah, keep eye on vdb.im/tda before you jump to conclusions. At least the volunteers here share for global audience more so that the theorycrafting has more information to support it. Tho even it will never reveal the full details of the games, including how I traumatized my hecata aggressive zombie predator with Extremis boon. I might have had much sourer taste from round 3 if I had not had that stars align moment in round 2 before it. Ying and yang and all that. It's the look I got when asking for impulse when I confirmed I was at zero pool and being ousted that I will remember much longer then the clobbering time I had at round 3. Trust in Jan Pieterzoon.

Archon approved. Congratulations for the winner. The final table was interesting game of shifting alliances as votes fluctuated through the game. Potence, if it doesn't work, you just aren't using enough National Coordinator of Finland Prince of Hämeenlinna

"It is not about how much pression you put, it's about how you put pression." -- Anneke Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

vdb.im/tda/12069 TDA has landed, while some imports are borked (looking at 6 vampire crypts) with common sense you'll prevail and can figure things out. Trust in Jan Pieterzoon.