First thx to Tof and Anka who helped creating this awesome BCP product !
Kudos bros !!
Now, let's open the Pandora Box and please give your
- 3 first picks in the Rare
- First pick in every Clan
- 6 first picks in the Uncommon
- 12 first picks in the Common
If it's not obvious, explain why you chose those cards...
My first commentary will be the complete list and then each photo will display the Vampires, Rare (Gold BCP symbol), Unco (Silver) and Common (Bronze).
Let the fun begin !!!
For the photos :
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With the photos you can check the special text of vampires and for the Draft Effect, here are the ones : www.facebook.com/events/623188707172264/?active_tab=discussion
I believe they are somewhere on our French Draft Championship !
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Ask Tof or Vincent.
Same type of questions : 2 Clans have 2 more Vampires (Tremere and Ventrue) : is it because they are lucky to be at the bottom of the alphabet order or is it lorewise ?
For your question I believe they have the Bronze symbol so they are common (a bit like the Rare Vampires from Final Nights IIRC)
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My picks
BANU HAQIM
Warmaksan
BRUJAH
Valeriya Zinovieva
GANGREL
Ruslan Fedorenko
MALKAVIAN
Gilbert Duane g6
MINISTRY
*Melech
NOSFERATU
Ryan
TOREADOR
Maila
TREMERE
Karl Schrekt
VENTRUE
Mithras g6
<> COMMON<>
.44 Magnum
Bum's Rush
Concealed Weapon
Consanguineous Boon
Harass
Hawg
Leather Jacket
Meat Cleaver
Misdirection
On the Qui Vive
Sport Bike
Vessel
<> UNCOMMON <>
Archon Investigation
Change of Target
Flamethrower
Guardian Angel
Tribute to the Master
Vulnerability
<> RARES <>
Fragment of the Book of Nod
Smiling Jack, The Anarch
Vox Domini
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> Ankha wrote:
>
> > emime wrote:
> >
> > > Vlad wrote:
> > > + <> COMMONS <>
> > >
> > > 2C*Cooler
> > > 2C*Faceless Night
> > > 2C*Precognition
> > > 2C*Spirit's Touch
> > >
> > >
> > Stupid (maybe semantic) question: isn't a "common" appearing 2x instead of 4x actually an uncommon?
> >
> A "booster" of 11 cards has 1 rare slot, 2 uncommon slots, 3 vampire slots, and 5 common slots.
>
I am not sure you are answering the question Vincent.
I think Emiliano tries to understand why those cards are Common and not Uncommon as they are printed twice, as every Unco.
But I might have not understood the question...
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I would think that when you organize a draft you should also report the winner's deck.
While it won't make it to the TWDA the info will be of interest to weirdos like me.
Hopefully it'll also be a nice tool for BCP to evaluate and perhaps tweak this, and future, draft sets?
I'm not knowledgeable at all on the affair of the french domain hosting the TWDA but perhaps it would be a good idea to make a similar one for draft winners? Or draft winners of THIS draft set only? (And in the future when the set is changed in a so major way it is a new product, then it would get its own DRAFT TWDA as well?)
I think it would be very beneficial for both players and the publisher to see which cards made it to the winning decks!
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> Lönkka wrote:
> I would think that when you organize a draft you should also report the winner's deck.
>
> While it won't make it to the TWDA the info will be of interest to weirdos like me.
>
> Hopefully it'll also be a nice tool for BCP to evaluate and perhaps tweak this, and future, draft sets?
>
> I'm not knowledgeable at all on the affair of the french domain hosting the TWDA but perhaps it would be a good idea to make a similar one for draft winners? Or draft winners of THIS draft set only? (And in the future when the set is changed in a so major way it is a new product, then it would get its own DRAFT TWDA as well?)
>
> I think it would be very beneficial for both players and the publisher to see which cards made it to the winning decks!
>
♥ that !
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> Ankha wrote:
> The rarity is not a matter of number of copies, but which slot it uses in a booster.
>
So we could make a Draft Box with all the old Promos in the Rare slots for example ?
If we have some ideas for another Draft Box, who can we send the complete "job" done ?
You Vincent ?
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> Ankha wrote:
> The rarity is not a matter of number of copies, but which slot it uses in a booster.
>
True, but folks without a complete knowledge of the 2x vs 4x commons might pass on a 2x common to take something in a more rare slot, mistakenly thinking the 2x common will be available more often.
> kschaefer wrote:
>
> > Ankha wrote:
> > The rarity is not a matter of number of copies, but which slot it uses in a booster.
> >
> True, but folks without a complete knowledge of the 2x vs 4x commons might pass on a 2x common to take something in a more rare slot, mistakenly thinking the 2x common will be available more often.
>
Why "raredraft" (pick up the more infrequent cards instead of more playable cards)? Especially nowadays when actual boosters are just a thing of the past.
If we want to keep on holding to artificial rarity even in Draft Box we could always start adding a small rarity marker somewhere to denote how frequently the card appears in THIS Draft Cube.
If you ask ME I would say it would be better to use a tiny R, U and C instead of a dot of Gold, Silver or Bronze that some games use as the difference between Gold and Bronze tends to be VERY superficial in small dots. Especially in less than optimal (bright AF) lighting...
You COULD use such a small dot inside a which there was the letter, thus incorporating both.
Also, nothing is preventing you from using widely different colors, such as red, yellow and green which everybody is familiar from traffic lights (as easy to remember rule of thumb as the colors of medals).
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> Lönkka wrote:
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> > kschaefer wrote:
> >
> > > Ankha wrote:
> > > The rarity is not a matter of number of copies, but which slot it uses in a booster.
> > >
> > True, but folks without a complete knowledge of the 2x vs 4x commons might pass on a 2x common to take something in a more rare slot, mistakenly thinking the 2x common will be available more often.
> >
> Why "raredraft" (pick up the more infrequent cards instead of more playable cards)? Especially nowadays when actual boosters are just a thing of the past.
>
It's not rare-drafting, but comparative value. If the expectation is that I will see more copies of common over the course of the draft, there's some potential advantage to taking an uncommon, which you're less likely to see again. Having cards that are uncommons, but appear as commons, trick players into misunderstanding the relative value of the card in terms of potential future appearance.
> Lönkka wrote:
> The cake is a lie.
>
> When I build draft cubes I don't give a darn about rarities.
>
And Eve & I, loved being your "sleeving slaves" Master...
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So no one wants to say which cards to pick ?
Not even obliged to tell us why...
What about the other questions ?
Changing olympics Colors to R U C letters / Streetfire Colors / etc.
Why a 2x card is common whereas all others are unco ?
If we have an idea for a Draft Box, who can we talk to about it ?
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> Lönkka wrote:
>
> If you ask ME I would say it would be better to use a tiny R, U and C instead of a dot of Gold, Silver or Bronze that some games use as the difference between Gold and Bronze tends to be VERY superficial in small dots. Especially in less than optimal (bright AF) lighting...
>
There's also a tiny R, U, C on the card, near the copyright.
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