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Deflection, Direct Intervention and Eagle's Sight

8 messages from 4 participants · 27 November 2024 – 23 January 2025 · vekn.net/forum
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acbishop

4 players table with the following sense of bleeding: A -> B -> C -> D Player A is bleeding player B with one of their vampires. All players decline to block. Player B plays Deflection sending the bleed to player C. Player C plays Direct Intervention on Player B's Deflection. Player A plays Conditioning superior. Player D wants to play Eagle's Sight to block player A's bleed Choose the correct option: 1) Player D can play Eagle's Sight as a new block window is opened after Conditioning was played 2) Player D can play Eagle's Sight as playing the Deflection opened a new block window 3) Player D can't play Eagle's Sight as cancelling the Deflection doesn't open a new block window (target of the bleed has not changed) and Deflection can only be played after blocks(all) are declined. CORRECT Relevant cardtext: Name: Deflection Cardtype: Reaction Cost: 1 blood Discipline: Dominate Only usable if a minion is bleeding you, after blocks are declined. [dom] Lock this reacting vampire. Change the target of the bleed to another Methuselah other than the acting minion's controller (that Methuselah can attempt to block). [DOM] As above, but do not lock this vampire. Name: Direct Intervention Cardtype: Master Cost: 1 pool Out-of-turn. Cancel a minion card as it is played, and its cost is not paid. (If it was an action card, the acting minion does not lock. If it was a strike card, the minion chooses another strike.) Name: Eagle's Sight Cardtype: Reaction Discipline: Auspex [aus] +1 intercept. [AUS] This vampire attempts to block the current action, ignoring the normal prey, predator or target restrictions for blocking actions. Name: Conditioning Cardtype: Action Modifier Cost: 1 blood Discipline: Dominate Only usable during a bleed action. [dom] +2 bleed (limited). [DOM] +3 bleed (limited).

Arnau Diez Sans

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beslin igor

after player A declare total bleed,can he play Conditioning superior?

Ankha

> beslin wrote: > after player A declare total bleed,can he play Conditioning superior? > "declaring total bleed" isn't something defined by the rule. If A passes the impulse, A cannot play Conditioning. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

beslin igor

This scenario: 4 players table with the following sense of bleeding: A -> B -> C -> D Player A is bleeding player B with one of their vampires. All players decline to block. ---so impulse back to A,A dint play anything,just anounce total bleed( with Arika for 3 example) Player B plays Deflection sending the bleed to player C. Player C plays Direct Intervention on Player B's Deflection. if A have impulse there to increase bleed? Player A plays Conditioning superior.

acbishop

> beslin wrote: > This scenario: > > 4 players table with the following sense of bleeding: A -> B -> C -> D > > Player A is bleeding player B with one of their vampires. > All players decline to block. > ---so impulse back to A,A dint play anything,just anounce total bleed( with Arika for 3 example) > Player B plays Deflection sending the bleed to player C. > Technically, here the impulse to play any cancellation cards goes back to player A, who declines to do anything and the impulse goes to the other players, B, and then C. > beslin wrote: > Player C plays Direct Intervention on Player B's Deflection. > if A have impulse there to increase bleed? > Player A plays Conditioning superior. > Yes, after the DI, impulse goes back to player A who can play a card (Conditioning)

beslin igor

> acbishop wrote: > > > beslin wrote: > > This scenario: > > > > 4 players table with the following sense of bleeding: A -> B -> C -> D > > > > Player A is bleeding player B with one of their vampires. > > All players decline to block. > > ---so impulse back to A,A dint play anything,just anounce total bleed( with Arika for 3 example) > > Player B plays Deflection sending the bleed to player C. > > > Technically, here the impulse to play any cancellation cards goes back to player A, who declines to do anything and the impulse goes to the other players, B, and then C. > > > beslin wrote: > > Player C plays Direct Intervention on Player B's Deflection. > > if A have impulse there to increase bleed? > > Player A plays Conditioning superior. > > > Yes, after the DI, impulse goes back to player A who can play a card (Conditioning) > Well,actually here then: "Player C plays Direct Intervention on Player B's Deflection." If B have another Deflection,he need to ask A,if A have something to play(increase bleed example),and then can play his 2nd Deflection. Can all that be confirmed from Rule Director?

acbishop

> beslin wrote: > > > acbishop wrote: > > > > > beslin wrote: > > > This scenario: > > > > > > 4 players table with the following sense of bleeding: A -> B -> C -> D > > > > > > Player A is bleeding player B with one of their vampires. > > > All players decline to block. > > > ---so impulse back to A,A dint play anything,just anounce total bleed( with Arika for 3 example) > > > Player B plays Deflection sending the bleed to player C. > > > > > > > > Technically, here the impulse to play any cancellation cards goes back to player A, who declines to do anything and the impulse goes to the other players, B, and then C. > > > > > beslin wrote: > > > Player C plays Direct Intervention on Player B's Deflection. > > > if A have impulse there to increase bleed? > > > Player A plays Conditioning superior. > > > > > > > > Yes, after the DI, impulse goes back to player A who can play a card (Conditioning) > > > Well,actually here then: > "Player C plays Direct Intervention on Player B's Deflection." > If B have another Deflection,he need to ask A,if A have something to play(increase bleed example),and then can play his 2nd Deflection. > Can all that be confirmed from Rule Director? > B cannot play another Deflection with the same minion but can play a Deflection with diferent minion when A gives him the impulse, so A can play Conditioning and B play then a Deflection with another minion or a different card to bounce the bleed