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The gargoyle created by "Create Gargoyle" is unique or not?

4 messages from 4 participants · 06 November 2023 · vekn.net/forum
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Coyote

Name: Create Gargoyle [BL:U2, LoB:R, HttB:PGar] Cardtype: Action Clan: Tremere/Tremere antitribu Cost: 2 pool +1 stealth action. Requires a non-sterile vampire. Put this card into play; it represents a 2-capacity slave Gargoyle of the same sect enslaved to the acting vampire's clan with basic Visceratika [vis] and flight [FLIGHT]. You may search your hand, library and/or ash heap for a master: Discipline to place on this Gargoyle. Move up to 3 blood from the acting vampire to this Gargoyle. This Gargoyle cannot act this turn. Artist: Durwin Talon Most cards that create vampires set if the vampire created is unique or not. A few not. Hatchling and Raw Recruit doesn't set is the vampire created is unique or not. But According to VDB by LJS sets that is not unique Although I don't see any reference to Hatchling in the LJS link so I don't understand why that applies to Hatchling groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/TojSBPeGCFw/0FaCEfqRs3QJ Is there any generic rule to set if a vampire created is unique or not when the card doesn't set it? Maybe if the card doesn't set a name for the card, in that case the vampire is not unique? For example Create Gargoyle doesn't set if the vampire is unique/not unique Thanks. Warning: Spoiler! Name: Raw Recruit [HttB:R/A2] Cardtype: Action Clan: Gargoyle +1 stealth action. Requires a slave. Put this card in play and move a vampire in torpor to this card, face up and out of play. A vampire you control to whom this Gargoyle is enslaved can remove that vampire from the game as a +1 stealth action to turn this card into a Gargoyle with the same capacity, Fortitude [for], Potence [pot], Visceratika [vis] and flight [FLIGHT], enslaved to the acting vampire's clan and of the same sect as this Gargoyle. Artist: Jim Pavelec Name: Hatchling [LoB:R, HttB:PGar] Cardtype: Action Clan: Gargoyle Cost: 2 blood +1 stealth action. Requires a non-sterile Gargoyle. Put this card into play. This card represents a 1-capacity Gargoyle of the same sect with basic Visceratika [vis]. Move 1 blood from the bank to this Gargoyle. This Gargoyle cannot act this turn. Once this game, this Gargoyle can burn 1 blood during your unlock phase to gain flight [FLIGHT]. Artist: Richard Thomas

Ghost1980

Hi, The crated gargoyle is not unique as it is not named.

kschaefer

Minion cards are not unique by default, including cards that are put into play. If the created vampire is unique, it will need to be mentioned explicitly on the card to override the default, cf. Nosferatu Bestial.

Ankha

> Ghost1980 wrote: > Hi, > > The crated gargoyle is not unique as it is not named. > > kschaefer wrote: > Minion cards are not unique by default, including cards that are put into play. If the created vampire is unique, it will need to be mentioned explicitly on the card to override the default, cf. Nosferatu Bestial. > Both correct. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director