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Heaven's Gate vs Charigger the Axe

3 messages from 3 participants · 15 August 2023 – 16 August 2023 · vekn.net/forum
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lip

A has Ossian in play and a vampire with , B has a vampire with Charigger, The Axe. Ossian burns in combat. Can A play Heaven's Gate before Charigger's ability triggers? 1. It depends on who's acting (Sequencing) 2. No, Charigger's ability always takes precedence Relevant rulings: [ANK 20210627] [LSJ 20071003] Note that it's clear that both (as replacement effects) have precedence over effects that depend on the minion burning (eg. Kherebutu and other mummies) Heaven's Gate Only usable by a ready unlocked vampire not involved in the combat. Prevent 1 damage to an ally in combat. Only usable if an ally would be burned in combat. Instead, they gain 1 life if they have no life, and they cannot enter (or be involved in) combat, perform actions, or block this turn; end combat. As above, but add 2 life if they have no life, not to exceed their starting life. Charigger, The Axe Unique wraith with 1 life. This Giovanni gets +1 stealth when hunting. If a minion controlled by your prey would be burned, instead remove that burning minion from the game and put 1 soul counter on Charigger. This Giovanni gets +1 bleed for each soul counter on Charigger.

Hakuron

It should first depend on the impulse and second on the chosen sequencing. I compare it with the question "Who is allowed to announce a block ignoring the regular restrictions first". It is not Anneke by default, it is the player who gets the impulse first. Thus if player A were acting/had the impulse he could play "Heaven's Gate" before the effect of "Charigger, The Axe", and if player B were acting/had the impulse then the effect of "Charigger, The Axe" would kick in first. And a player controlling both a Vampire with Obeah and "Charigger, The Axe" should be allowed to choose if he wished to play "Heaven's Gate" before the effect of "Charigger, The Axe" kicks in. National Coordinator Germany nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de

Ankha

> Hakuron wrote: > It should first depend on the impulse and second on the chosen sequencing. > > I compare it with the question "Who is allowed to announce a block ignoring the regular restrictions first". It is not Anneke by default, it is the player who gets the impulse first. > Thus if player A were acting/had the impulse he could play "Heaven's Gate" before the effect of "Charigger, The Axe", and if player B were acting/had the impulse then the effect of "Charigger, The Axe" would kick in first. > > And a player controlling both a Vampire with Obeah and "Charigger, The Axe" should be allowed to choose if he wished to play "Heaven's Gate" before the effect of "Charigger, The Axe" kicks in. > Correct. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director