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Direct Intervention

9 messages from 7 participants · 12 August 2023 – 16 August 2023 · vekn.net/forum
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XZealot

Is there a window for negotiation from when a card is played and the Direct Intervention can be legally played to counter that card?

Coyote

Counter the direct intervention card? I am not sure what you want to negotiate. Before playing a card, you can always negotiate, "I will play a Wash to your Direct intervention if you don't this for me later" but after you play a card you can't roll back. So if someone plays a direct intervention, you can't negotiate "Don't play it or I will play a wash" Before playing a card you can negotiate whatever you want. Even you can bluff if you don't have that card. But you can't show the card before you are going to play it. When you announce that you play a card, you can't roll back even in the "as it is played" window. Is this what you were asking?

Timo

If I understand the question correctly it is about the length of the "as played window" and if it is possible to negotiate when someone play a card that you could DI. And the answer is there is no fixed limit and you are allowed to negotiate during that window.

XZealot

Then could you legally ask "What can you offer me not to DI that?" on every single minion card played by any player, through the entire game?

GuyRusso6

Any time you have impulse you have a window for negotiation. Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is ~Milton~

Hakuron

> XZealot wrote: > Then could you legally ask "What can you offer me not to DI that?" on every single minion card played by any player, through the entire game? > If I witnessed such behaviour from a player in a tournament game, I would call for the judge and tell him that the respective player is trolling and stalling the game. National Coordinator Germany nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de

Ankha

> Hakuron wrote: > > > XZealot wrote: > > Then could you legally ask "What can you offer me not to DI that?" on every single minion card played by any player, through the entire game? > > > If I witnessed such behaviour from a player in a tournament game, I would call for the judge and tell him that the respective player is trolling and stalling the game. > That is the right thing to do. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Lönkka

Could be that the player DOES have DI and might be willing to use it. If not interested in such shameless ploys to get something out of, well, basically nothing, just tell them that you won't ever give them anything so no need to ask again ("just talk to the hand..."). If after that they still persist, showing stalling shouldn't be a problem... Finnish Politics!

Coyote

> Timo wrote: > If I understand the question correctly it is about the length of the "as played window" and if it is possible to negotiate when someone play a card that you could DI. > > And the answer is there is no fixed limit, and you are allowed to negotiate during that window. > Okay. I understand now. It is not about reverting a card played that could be counter by DI so none the DI and the card were lost. Once a player announces he is playing a card, there is no step back. It is about extortion for future retributions. Well... I didn't see that coming.