From a discussion in the discord, the below question came up;
During a referendum, which of the below are subject to and relevant for sequencing/impulse and would move the impulse back to the acting vampire?
a) burning the edge for a vote
b) burning/discarding a political action card for a vote
c) using an effect from a card in play
d) playing a card for its effect
e) casting votes gained from one´s vampires (normally from their title)
> inm8 wrote:
> From a discussion in the discord, the below question came up;
>
> During a referendum, which of the below are subject to and relevant for sequencing/impulse and would move the impulse back to the acting vampire?
> a) burning the edge for a vote
> b) burning/discarding a political action card for a vote
> c) using an effect from a card in play
> d) playing a card for its effect
> e) casting votes gained from one´s vampires (normally from their title)
>
a) to d) use the impulse
e) does not, rulebook: "all Methuselahs may now cast any votes and ballots they have at this time, in any order."
Prince of Paris, France
Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
what happen if acting Methuselah declare his votes,and then all another abstain(nobody vote anything),can then acting Methuselahs play any cards as Awe to gain additional votes,or him dont get impulse for this?
I must say many times casting votes loks like as mess in table,maybe need to exist some order as clockwise or something,some people wait and dont want to say anything because wait to another people vote before.
> beslin wrote:
> what happen if acting Methuselah declare his votes,and then all another abstain(nobody vote anything),can then acting Methuselahs play any cards as Awe to gain additional votes,or him dont get impulse for this?
>
Yes, the Methuselah can play Awe.
> beslin wrote:
> I must say many times casting votes loks like as mess in table,maybe need to exist some order as clockwise or something,some people wait and dont want to say anything because wait to another people vote before.
>
Casting votes can be done in any order. It may look like a mess, but it isn't.
Prince of Paris, France
Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
I think the point is more that the impulse/sequencing rule isn't really being actively applied during referendums (opposite to e.g. combat) when the players actually must wait till they get the impulse before they can do any of a) to d) and as soon as they do the impulse goes back to the active player.
I haven´t come up with a scenario where it would actually matter but that doesn´t mean there isn't one.
> inm8 wrote:
> a) burning the edge for a vote
> b) burning/discarding a political action card for a vote
> c) using an effect from a card in play
> d) playing a card for its effect
> e) casting votes gained from one´s vampires (normally from their title)
>
Casting votes should stay as it is. You shouldn't be forced to declare how you vote (or abstain) just because it's your turn around the table - you decide to cast votes (or not) in reaction to the current vote balance and ongoing table negotiations. This is politics.
It might be a bit messy but only if more players are sure how they want to vote and that they want to vote immediately - but that's just "human" issue, game mechanics are unaffected, you can vote all at once.