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Can a Flaming Candle be moved by a Heidelberg Castle, Germany?

8 messages from 4 participants · 03 November 2022 – 15 March 2023 · vekn.net/forum
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Coyote

Move equipment implies the receiving vampire equips it? Thanks Name: Flaming Candle [BH:R, NB:PTr1] Cardtype: Equipment Only one Flaming Candle can be played or equipped in a game. This vampire can burn 1 blood and the Flaming Candle as they announce an action to make that action unblockable by vampires. Artist: Becky Jollensten Name: Heidelberg Castle, Germany AKA: Heidelburg Castle, Germany [DS:U2, FN:PR, KMW:PAl, LoB:PI, 25th:1] Cardtype: Master Cost: 2 pool Unique location. Lock to move blood, equipment and/or retainers between any two ready vampires you control. Cannot be used during an action. Artist: L. A. Williams

Bloodartist

I believe the answer is yes. Moving isn't equipping, and the cardtext is intended to prevent equipping multiples via a different action than itself, such as magic of the smith. Smoking craters tell no tales. —Tex talks Battletech

Ankha

> Bloodartist wrote: > I believe the answer is yes. > Moving isn't equipping, and the cardtext is intended to prevent equipping multiples via a different action than itself, such as magic of the smith. > Correct. Also, a vampire can equip the Candle from another vampire, since it's the same copy (the Candle's cardtext prevents from equipping another copy). Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Coyote

Thanks both

Hobbesgoblin

> Ankha wrote: > > > Bloodartist wrote: > > I believe the answer is yes. > > Moving isn't equipping, and the cardtext is intended to prevent equipping multiples via a different action than itself, such as magic of the smith. > > > Correct. > Also, a vampire can equip the Candle from another vampire, since it's the same copy (the Candle's cardtext prevents from equipping another copy). > According to [LSJ 20060209] a second copy can be "put into play" with effects like Kiss of Lachesis, or Grasping the ghostly (presumably also summon history) I have now two questions: 1) is this ruling upheld with the new wording, regarding "only one candle can be played"? (this question touches on the wider topic of "does putting into play, count as playing a card?") 2) if so, would that stop usind the rulebook "equip-action" to transfer the candle? Kiss of Lachesis Grasp the Ghostly Summon History

Ankha

> Hobbesgoblin wrote: > > > Ankha wrote: > > > > > Bloodartist wrote: > > > I believe the answer is yes. > > > Moving isn't equipping, and the cardtext is intended to prevent equipping multiples via a different action than itself, such as magic of the smith. > > > > > Correct. > > Also, a vampire can equip the Candle from another vampire, since it's the same copy (the Candle's cardtext prevents from equipping another copy). > > > According to [LSJ 20060209] a second copy can be "put into play" with effects like Kiss of Lachesis, or Grasping the ghostly (presumably also summon history) > > I have now two questions: > 1) is this ruling upheld with the new wording, regarding "only one candle can be played"? > (this question touches on the wider topic of "does putting into play, count as playing a card?") > The ruling is still valid. > Hobbesgoblin wrote: > 2) if so, would that stop usind the rulebook "equip-action" to transfer the candle? > No, for the reason given in the previous post (it's the same copy). Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Hobbesgoblin

I mean, if a second copy of the flaming candle would be put into the game via "alternate means" (Put into play, etc.), would that second copy be stopped from being transfered with the rulebook equip action?

Ankha

> Hobbesgoblin wrote: > I mean, if a second copy of the flaming candle would be put into the game via "alternate means" (Put into play, etc.), would that second copy be stopped from being transfered with the rulebook equip action? > Yes, it cannot be equiped with. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director