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Goth Band and Leadership Vacuum

5 messages from 5 participants · 21 October 2022 – 24 October 2022 · vekn.net/forum
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Killiam

Imagine you control Goth Band (GB) and have just played a Leadership Vacuum (LV), placing one counter on it for having dunked a Bishop (so X=1 for LV). You immediately take an action with GB to remove a counter from another Methuselah's master card and add it to the LV. So now there are two counters on LV, but does that mean that X=2 now? More to the point --> QUESTION: Now that there is a second counter on Leadership Vacuum (played at X=1), how much pool will my prey burn from LV during their unlock phase? The reason I think the answer might be 1 rather than 2 is that the card says to burn X pool, rather than saying to burn pool equal to the number of counters on the card. Moreover, the card does not say to adjust the value of X according to the number of counters; it merely says that X is the starting number of counters. Still, it would be cool if the combo worked. Card text pasted below. Thanks! -Bill / Killiam Leadership Vacuum Master: out-of-turn. Unique. Only usable when a ready titled vampire controlled by another Methuselah is burned or sent to torpor. Usable during your turn. Put this card in play and put X counters on this card where X is the number of votes that vampire has. That Methuselah burns X pool during each of his or her unlock phases. During his or her unlock phase, if he or she controls a ready vampire with a capacity of 8 or more or with a title, burn this card. Goth Band Cost: 2 pool Unique mortal with 2 life. 1 strength, 0 bleed. As a +1 stealth Ⓓ action, the Goth Band may move one counter from any master card controlled by another Methuselah to a master card you control that uses counters. The counter is changed to a counter of the type appropriate to the new card. -Killiam (Bill Troxel) "I look back from where I'm from Look at the woman I've become And the strangest things seem Suddenly routine" -Hedwig Robinson

lip

Good question, and good point. I would say that still, X has to be 2, otherwise why the counters at all?

inm8

I disagree, the text is explicit about what the value of X is ("X is the number of votes that vampire has") and has nothing to do with the counters on the card.

KoRneeshon

Poor wording. Should be: "That Methuselah burns pool equal to the number of counters on this card during each of his or her unlock phases". With the current text, I agree with inm8.

Ankha

> KoRneeshon wrote: > Poor wording. Should be: > > "That Methuselah burns pool equal to the number of counters on this card during each of his or her unlock phases". > > With the current text, I agree with inm8. > Correct. The number of counters has no influence whatsoever on the pool amount the Methuselah burns. If we ever reprint the card, it will perhaps change. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director