Quick post to ask for an official REVERSAL for reference for [LSJ 20050531] :
> > LSJ's argument is this: when Kemintiri is playing a card requiring a
> > justicar, that card treats her as being a justicar. That's why Closed
> > Session lets her vote. (I found this very unintuitive because I had
> > thought of Closed Session as applying an effect to the duration of the
> > referendum, not an effect resolving immediately - and it has to apply
> > its effect immediately on being played for it to treat Kemintiri as a
> > justicar. But I can't see any problems with it working the way Scott is
> > obviously reading it, so I'll have to revise my intution on Closed
> > Session. ☺︎
> >
> Sorry. I was just thinking in terms of "as played" and "while in
> play". I wasn't thinking about the extended duration effects, a topic
> which had already been covered in the "as a vampire" suite.
>
> Your intuition is correct.
>
> Kem plays Closed Session as a Camarilla justicar, but no longer
> qualifiers as either a justicar or a Camarilla during the
> polling, so the Closed Session will exclude her.
>
> (Reversal of previous ruling)
>
Since rulings on "masking" effects have changed since and now include all duration effects.
> lip wrote:
> Quick post to ask for an official REVERSAL for reference for [LSJ 20050531] :
>
> > > LSJ's argument is this: when Kemintiri is playing a card requiring a
> > > justicar, that card treats her as being a justicar. That's why Closed
> > > Session lets her vote. (I found this very unintuitive because I had
> > > thought of Closed Session as applying an effect to the duration of the
> > > referendum, not an effect resolving immediately - and it has to apply
> > > its effect immediately on being played for it to treat Kemintiri as a
> > > justicar. But I can't see any problems with it working the way Scott is
> > > obviously reading it, so I'll have to revise my intution on Closed
> > > Session. ☺︎
> > >
> > Sorry. I was just thinking in terms of "as played" and "while in
> > play". I wasn't thinking about the extended duration effects, a topic
> > which had already been covered in the "as a vampire" suite.
> >
> > Your intuition is correct.
> >
> > Kem plays Closed Session as a Camarilla justicar, but no longer
> > qualifiers as either a justicar or a Camarilla during the
> > polling, so the Closed Session will exclude her.
> >
> > (Reversal of previous ruling)
> >
> Since rulings on "masking" effects have changed since and now include all duration effects.
>
Correct. Closed Session sees Kemintiri as a Camarilla vampire for the duration of its effect, so she can vote.
This reversal is covered by 7/7/7 ruling .
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