A few questions regarding Nar-Sheptha:
1) Vampire V1 (Banu Haqim) with Nar-Sheptha enters combat with Vampire V2, V2 makes the combat go-to long-range and strikes to kill Nar-Sheptha. What happens when Nar-Sheptha is burned? Discard 2 cards and V1 becomes acting immediately ....i.e V1 has to play additional strikes alt press first ?
2) Does the special ability/effect provided by retainers stop immediately at the moment they are burned?
3) V2 plays Deep Song and rushes V1 (Banu Haqim) with Nar-Sheptha, who is acting?
The first two questions Im pretty sure about, but the third I would wait Ankhas interpretation..
1. Yes. The effects are immediate. However, as far as I can see, all damaging retainers deal their damage during normal strike resolution; ie. simultaneously with normal strikes which you would use to burn the retainer.
2. Yes.
3. I believe that since Deep song is played later, it determines who is acting if it resolves successfully (if it is not blocked). So Nar-sheptha owner.
But I would wait Ankhas ruling on this one.
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> inm8 wrote:
> A few questions regarding Nar-Sheptha:
>
> 1) Vampire V1 (Banu Haqim) with Nar-Sheptha enters combat with Vampire V2, V2 makes the combat go-to long-range and strikes to kill Nar-Sheptha. What happens when Nar-Sheptha is burned? Discard 2 cards and V1 becomes acting immediately ....i.e V1 has to play additional strikes alt press first ?
>
Nar-Sheptha is burned as part of the strike resolution. The effects of Nar-Sheptha are no longer active after the strike resolution (their controller discards down to their handsize and the opposing minion is now longer considered the acting minion).
> inm8 wrote:
> 2) Does the special ability/effect provided by retainers stop immediately at the moment they are burned?
>
Yes if their effect is continuous.
> inm8 wrote:
> 3) V2 plays Deep Song and rushes V1 (Banu Haqim) with Nar-Sheptha, who is acting?
>
The latest effect to apply "wins". So Nar-Sheptha's effect overrides Deep Song's effect: V2 is considered to be the acting minion.
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> Bloodartist wrote:
> 3. I believe that since Deep song is played later, it determines who is acting if it resolves successfully (if it is not blocked). So Nar-sheptha owner.
> But I would wait Ankhas ruling on this one.
>
Nar-Sheptha's effect triggers "while in combat", so it applies after Deep Song's effect (since there is no combat if Deep Song has not resolved yet).
Prince of Paris, France
Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
I would have thought that the Deep Song being played first would be the one getting to dictate who is acting and wouldn´t be overruled by a later effect, similar to the setting of range effects which when one sets the range doesn´t allow further manipulation of the range to be done....basically, only one effect is allowed to dictate the state of things overruling the rules default and thereby preventing further manipulation of that state. I was wrong I guess