Timing of Blood Hunt Following Amaranth

Hi, I observed some disagreement over this, but could not find the official ruling. Sorry if these questions are redundant. After a vampire plays Amaranth (and presumably gains blood from the diablerie), is there a window of time in which they can play Ritual of the Bitter Rose or Slake the Thirst before the blood hunt is called? Do they first have to survive the blood hunt referendum in order to play those cards? Here is the text for those cards: Name: Amaranth Cardtype: Combat Only usable by a vampire who can commit diablerie. Only usable when the opposing vampire should go to torpor. Diablerize the opposing vampire instead. Not usable by a vampire being burned or going to torpor. Name: Ritual of the Bitter Rose Cardtype: Action Modifier/Combat Each ready vampire you control gains an amount of blood from the blood bank equal to the amount of blood on a vampire being burned either by diablerie or while in combat with this vampire. Name: Slake the Thirst Cardtype: Action Modifier/Combat Discipline: Sanguinus Only usable after this Blood Brother gains blood. [san] [COMBAT] Choose another ready Blood Brother of the same circle. The chosen Blood Brother gains the same amount of blood. [SAN] [ACTION MODIFIER] As above, but usable as an action modifier. Thanks much, -Killiam (Bill Troxel) -Killiam (Bill Troxel) "I look back from where I'm from Look at the woman I've become And the strangest things seem Suddenly routine" -Hedwig Robinson

> Killiam wrote: > Hi, > > I observed some disagreement over this, but could not find the official ruling. Sorry if these questions are redundant. > > After a vampire plays Amaranth (and presumably gains blood from the diablerie), is there a window of time in which they can play Ritual of the Bitter Rose or Slake the Thirst before the blood hunt is called? > Yes. After handling steps 1 to 5 of the diablerie, and before the blood hunt referendum is called. See www.vekn.net/rulebook#6.5.5.diablerie "The steps of diablerie are treated as a single unit. No effects can be used to interrupt the diablerie; effects may be played either before or after, as appropriate. After diablerie, a blood hunt may be called on the diablerist." > Killiam wrote: > Do they first have to survive the blood hunt referendum in order to play those cards? > No. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director