V5 cardlist

When can we expect to see the cardlist and csv files updated with the V5 cards? Also, what is the official release date of the set? -- National Coordinator South Africa

I cannot say anything on the card list updates, but the official release date according to BCP is the 30th of November www.blackchantry.com/2020/10/18/production-update-october-18th-2020/ Prince of Bonn, Germany

The cardlists will be updated for the official release. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Thanks for updating the cardlist list. However, as I've previously pointed out - www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/78566-assamite-pod-changes#99573 - the Promo Pack 1 cards are still listed with the wrong date (4th of August 2019 instead of the correct 8th of April 2019) (Promo-20190804 vs Promo-20190408). -- National Coordinator South Africa

> drnlmza wrote: > Thanks for updating the cardlist list. > > However, as I've previously pointed out - www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/78566-assamite-pod-changes#99573 - the Promo Pack 1 cards are still listed with the wrong date (4th of August 2019 instead of the correct 8th of April 2019) (Promo-20190804 vs Promo-20190408). > Fixed. Thanks for the reminder. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

So... If I understand correctly, it is still "Thaumaturgy" and "tha" in the card lists despite it being renamed to "Blood sorcery" in the V5 rulebook? Will this cause confusion? Emiliano "Sans Terre" - Wandering Player - Prince of Brussels

Would have been good to mention in the new rule book that Thaumaturgy and Blood Sorcery are the same which i believe they are.

V5 CSV files have been updated: the value in the columns for the Disciplines were wrong for the new vampires, leading to errors in the deck builders that use them. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

> emime wrote: > So... If I understand correctly, it is still "Thaumaturgy" and "tha" in the card lists despite it being renamed to "Blood sorcery" in the V5 rulebook? Will this cause confusion? > For Blood Sorcery and Thaumaturgy, the abbreviation will be [tha] for both. The term "Blood Sorcery" will be used for V5 sets and onward, not legacy cards. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

*sigh* Finnish Politics!

> Ankha wrote: > > > emime wrote: > > So... If I understand correctly, it is still "Thaumaturgy" and "tha" in the card lists despite it being renamed to "Blood sorcery" in the V5 rulebook? Will this cause confusion? > > > For Blood Sorcery and Thaumaturgy, the abbreviation will be [tha] for both. > > The term "Blood Sorcery" will be used for V5 sets and onward, not legacy cards. > Wait, what ? You won't just replace all tha with blood sorcery ? You won't realign icons to match their new name ? That's kind of stupid, especially as vampires in v5 already have their disciplines ordered wrong (tremere should have from top to bot AUS BLO DOM, not AUS DOM BLO). Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

> Ankha wrote: > > > emime wrote: > > So... If I understand correctly, it is still "Thaumaturgy" and "tha" in the card lists despite it being renamed to "Blood sorcery" in the V5 rulebook? Will this cause confusion? > > > For Blood Sorcery and Thaumaturgy, the abbreviation will be [tha] for both. > > The term "Blood Sorcery" will be used for V5 sets and onward, not legacy cards. > Thank you Vincent. Sorry to continue with the nitpicking: can you then confirm that Thaumaturgy and Blood Sorcery, both abbreviated [tha], are one and the same discipline? For example, will a future vampire with the ability "Cards requiring Blood Sorcery cost this vampire 1 less blood" be able to pay Magic of the Smith - a Thaumaturgy card - for free? If this is the case (as I think your answer implies), it would be really important that this be specified somewhere official (future versions of the rulebook? RTR?), in particular to avoid confusing new (or returning) players. Emiliano "Sans Terre" - Wandering Player - Prince of Brussels

> emime wrote: > Thank you Vincent. Sorry to continue with the nitpicking: can you then confirm that Thaumaturgy and Blood Sorcery, both abbreviated [tha], are one and the same discipline? > They are the same Discipline. > emime wrote: > For example, will a future vampire with the ability "Cards requiring Blood Sorcery cost this vampire 1 less blood" be able to pay Magic of the Smith - a Thaumaturgy card - for free? > Yes. > emime wrote: > If this is the case (as I think your answer implies), it would be really important that this be specified somewhere official (future versions of the rulebook? RTR?), in particular to avoid confusing new (or returning) players. > Sure. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director