rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Are Equipment effects done by the bearer?

8 messages from 5 participants · 02 July 2020 – 21 July 2020 · vekn.net/forum
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Rémi

Dear all, I control a minion which has an equipment. This equipment does something, from the rule point of view, is the bearer doing that effect? A few examples: Name: Talbot's Chainsaw Unique weapon. If the bearer is ready during your unlock phase, this weapon inflicts 3 unpreventable damage on a ready minion you control. Name: Black Gloves Bearer takes 1 damage during strike resolution when this weapon is used, but only once each combat. Thanks in advance, Regards, Rémi. I am Rémi Cavaillé (), Barcelona (Spain). I was the Prince of Lyon (France) around 2003. I am now Official Judge and the 5th Prince of Barcelona. Enjoy VTES, Marvel Champions, L5R and more gaming activities in Khan Jugar: sites.google.com/view/khanjugar/

Ankha

Could you be more specific? Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Hobbesgoblin

If I can hazard a guess, I would assume, in respect to the quoted cards "What is the soruce of the damage?" Is it coming from the Vampire wielding it, or is it environmental?

Kushiel

Dunno if this is what Rémi is asking about, but this would work as a situation: I have merged Helena in play (relevant card text: "Helena is immune to damage from demons"). I also have Abyssal Hunter (a demon) in play, which has equipped Talbot's Chainsaw (see card text above). If the Hunter targets merged Helena with Talbot's three damage during the unlock phase, is she immune to it because it was damage from a demon?

Ankha

> Kushiel wrote: > I have merged Helena in play (relevant card text: "Helena is immune to damage from demons"). I also have Abyssal Hunter (a demon) in play, which has equipped Talbot's Chainsaw (see card text above). > If the Hunter targets merged Helena with Talbot's three damage during the unlock phase, is she immune to it because it was damage from a demon? > No. The damage is inflicted by the Talbot Chainsaw, not the minion wielding it. groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/Mz_fcIldfAY/Ys_W0MtwqLgJ This is a different situation from a demon striking with the Chainsaw, in which case the damage is considered to be inflicted by a demon and an equipment. Both Helena (immune to damage from demons) and Mictlantecuhtli (immune to damage from weapons) would both be immune to the damage of such a strike. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

beslin igor

> Ankha wrote: > > > Kushiel wrote: > > I have merged Helena in play (relevant card text: "Helena is immune to damage from demons"). I also have Abyssal Hunter (a demon) in play, which has equipped Talbot's Chainsaw (see card text above). > > If the Hunter targets merged Helena with Talbot's three damage during the unlock phase, is she immune to it because it was damage from a demon? > > > No. The damage is inflicted by the Talbot Chainsaw, not the minion wielding it. > > groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/Mz_fcIldfAY/Ys_W0MtwqLgJ > > This is a different situation from a demon striking with the Chainsaw, in which case the damage is considered to be inflicted by a demon and an equipment. Both Helena (immune to damage from demons) and Mictlantecuhtli (immune to damage from weapons) would both be immune to the damage of such a strike. > So Ankha in you example Mictlantecuhtli is immune from Talbot Chainsaw in both scenario,him dint take damage from Talbot Chainsaw text during unlock and him dint take damage from Talbot Chainsaw as strike,but in Helena scenario she take damage in unlock because damage inflict Talbot Chainsaw,but no take damage from strike Talbot Chainsaw if strike made by demons,right?

Ankha

> beslin wrote: > So Ankha in you example Mictlantecuhtli is immune from Talbot Chainsaw in both scenario,him dint take damage from Talbot Chainsaw text during unlock and him dint take damage from Talbot Chainsaw as strike,but in Helena scenario she take damage in unlock because damage inflict Talbot Chainsaw,but no take damage from strike Talbot Chainsaw if strike made by demons,right? > Correct. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Rémi

Hello, Sorry for the delay... the main question was about Talbot's Chainsaw but I was looking for a generic answer. I understand that each equipment may be a specific. Thanks a lot all for your help. Regards, Rémi. I am Rémi Cavaillé (), Barcelona (Spain). I was the Prince of Lyon (France) around 2003. I am now Official Judge and the 5th Prince of Barcelona. Enjoy VTES, Marvel Champions, L5R and more gaming activities in Khan Jugar: sites.google.com/view/khanjugar/