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Deep song vs obedience

2 messages from 2 participants · 02 July 2020 · vekn.net/forum
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Bloodartist

If my vampire is target of a deep song rush action, and I don't block it, can my vampire play obedience or is it locked before I can play it? (reactions have to be played by unlocked minions) The "about to enter combat" window is kind of confusing. Name: Deep Song [KoT:C/A2, HttB:PSam2, Anthology:4, SP:DoF4] Cardtype: Action Discipline: Animalism [ani] Bleed with +1 bleed. [ANI] Frenzy. Enter combat with and lock a vampire. That {target} vampire is considered the acting minion in that combat. Name: Obedience [Jyhad:U, VTES:U, Sabbat:U, SW:PV, CE:U, Third:U, HttB:PKia3, SP:PoS2] Cardtype: Reaction Discipline: Dominate Only usable {if} this vampire is about to enter combat with an acting younger vampire. [dom] Unlock the acting vampire and end the action. (Do not lock this vampire if they are blocking.) The acting vampire cannot take the same action this turn. [DOM] As above, but do not unlock the acting vampire. Smoking craters tell no tales. —Tex talks Battletech

Ankha

> Bloodartist wrote: > If my vampire is target of a deep song rush action, and I don't block it, can my vampire play obedience or is it locked before I can play it? (reactions have to be played by unlocked minions) > > The "about to enter combat" window is kind of confusing. > > Name: Deep Song > [KoT:C/A2, HttB:PSam2, Anthology:4, SP:DoF4] > Cardtype: Action > Discipline: Animalism > [ani] Bleed with +1 bleed. > [ANI] Frenzy. Enter combat with and lock a vampire. That {target} vampire is considered the acting minion in that combat. > > Name: Obedience > [Jyhad:U, VTES:U, Sabbat:U, SW:PV, CE:U, Third:U, HttB:PKia3, SP:PoS2] > Cardtype: Reaction > Discipline: Dominate > Only usable {if} this vampire is about to enter combat with an acting younger vampire. > [dom] Unlock the acting vampire and end the action. (Do not lock this vampire if they are blocking.) The acting vampire cannot take the same action this turn. > [DOM] As above, but do not unlock the acting vampire. > Deep Song has a "lock + enter combat effect" (simultaneous). Obedience is played if the vampire is about to enter combat. "About to" happens before. So the action is ended by Obedience before the "lock + enter combat effect" happens. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director