VTES DB - Announcement

Hi fellow Methuselah, I want to announce new web card search tool I have done for me and yours: vtes-db.smeea.casa/crypt vtes-db.smeea.casa/library What it is: - Another option to search cards. - Clean and simple interface, created by practicing Methuselah for the Kindred. - Desktop (that is how I mostly use it) and mobile friendly (optimised for hi-resolution mobile). - Free (as in 'liberty', MIT licensed). You literally can modify/run it within minutes at home server, sources are available with permissive license. What it is NOT: - Full deck building suite. One day maybe, but so far it is just a card search tool. But nevertheless, it is aimed to be the tool at a search. - Production grade software. It is still under development, meaning it works, but there are bugs around. Please report it and I'll do my best to fix it. Support: - It runs on my home server which is limited with bandwidth/power. Most likely it will work fine, but if you crave for minimal latency you may want self-hosting options for you local computer (described in Github ). There are no hidden downsides (i.e. spyware / bitcoin miners / other malware). - I can help you via , but please try to first contact in this thread / Github to minimize doubles. For lazy antideluvians screenshots (resized to barely visible by forum engine, unfortunately) in the attachments. Have a good deck-building holidays!

After 2 minutes of testing it looks like a very nice substitute for Secret Library. Finally! Cryptvise it might also be nice to be able to choose how the results are organized: -by capacity or -by group or -alphabetically Finnish Politics!

I noticed that you've apparently used the latest card text for the text version (I checked just Parity Shift). Nice! However, at least Parity Shift still had the VTES version as the picture. Which might be problematic as some people might not check both. BTW When I went through and reorganized my cards during winter I noticed that in the later sets White Wolf had started to use larger font when it was possible. IIRC, the change started with Legacies of Blood. So everything that was reprinted since had noticeably larger font (compared to previous editions of those cards) which was way clearer and easier to read. Similarly Final Nights experimented all card having miniscule font which tends to be pain in the rear end to read! Finnish Politics!

The code is very neat, and it works well! Thanks! Of course, there's always room for improvement, but since you shared the code, I'm sure there will be some contributors to help Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

> Lönkka wrote: > Cryptvise it might also be nice to be able to choose how the results are organized: > -by capacity > or > -by group > or > -alphabetically > Now default sorting for Crypt is done the the following order: Capacity -> Group -> Clan -> Name And for Library: Discipline -> Clan -> Type -> Name I really like to implement other sorting options (and it will be done), but I still have some doubts how to handle it best way (e.g. straight group sorting sounds simple and good, but since it will miss neighbor groups result output is not too useful). > Lönkka wrote: > I noticed that you've apparently used the latest card text for the text version (I checked just Parity Shift). Nice! > Card text public available from VEKN: www.vekn.net/card-lists in CSV (which is trivial for conversion to JSON, used in the service), so I assume there will be no problem keeping all card text updated in the future. This text is used for search. > > Lönkka wrote: > However, at least Parity Shift still had the VTES version as the picture. Which might be problematic as some people might not check both. > This part is more tricky. At my disposal I only have outdated pictures and I have no idea where to get it updated. I manually added several missing new crypt cards from Black Chantry site announces, but it is pretty time consuming to keep all base updated this way (especially without reliable source of images). We must either wait for the workaround from BCP... or kindred fellows can contribute and share updated cards with me to be inlcuded

a quick source for OFFICIAL text is always welcome Lurking in the underground of Bologna, Italy

> smeeag wrote: > > > Lönkka wrote: > > I noticed that you've apparently used the latest card text for the text version (I checked just Parity Shift). Nice! > > > Card text public available from VEKN: www.vekn.net/card-lists in CSV (which is trivial for conversion to JSON, used in the service), so I assume there will be no problem keeping all card text updated in the future. This text is used for search. > > > > Lönkka wrote: > > However, at least Parity Shift still had the VTES version as the picture. Which might be problematic as some people might not check both. > > > This part is more tricky. At my disposal I only have outdated pictures and I have no idea where to get it updated. I manually added several missing new crypt cards from Black Chantry site announces, but it is pretty time consuming to keep all base updated this way (especially without reliable source of images). > We must either wait for the workaround from BCP... or kindred fellows can contribute and share updated cards with me to be inlcuded > Seems you use images from old version of Lackey/FELD I've created based in revised beta cards text CSV. Since revised CSV Beta was discontinued, I revert back to official CSV (04/NOV/2019) and recreate all card images. You can download all images pack here www.vekn.net/forum/v-tes-inventory-deckbuilding-programs/78088-feld-update-2-71-with-first-blood *You can use FELD as inspiration to add more features to you project. I like your site. And about CSV, I'm waiting Vincent (Ankha) update official CSV with latest promo cards (Boleslaw Gutowski and Gabriel Tremblay) and Assamite cards reflecting DriveThru release updates. Fernando Cesar - Sydnelson LackeyCCG and OCTGN VtES Mantainer Prince of Rio de Janeiro Powerbase Rio de Janeiro

> Sydnelson wrote: > Seems you use images from old version of Lackey/FELD I've created based in revised beta cards text CSV. > > Since revised CSV Beta was discontinued, I revert back to official CSV (04/NOV/2019) and recreate all card images. > > You can download all images pack here > www.vekn.net/forum/v-tes-inventory-deckbuilding-programs/78088-feld-update-2-71-with-first-blood > That's fantastic! Base updated with all your images, thanks a lot!

> Sydnelson wrote: > And about CSV, I'm waiting Vincent (Ankha) update official CSV with latest promo cards (Boleslaw Gutowski and Gabriel Tremblay) and Assamite cards reflecting DriveThru release updates. > Boleslaw Gutowski and Gabriel Tremblay have not been released yet, so they won't be included. Assamite cards should be included pretty soon. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

To mangle a quot from Lando: "This deal is getting better all the time!" Finnish Politics!

Today it is updated with icons (in addition to text) in some select forms: - Crypt+Library > Clan - Library > Discipline - Library > Card Type Unfortunately, I cannot implement it for mobile native full-screen select forms, but I belive icons are more important (and for other forms it still works). Additionally, there were was a problem for some laptop resolutions showing mobile version (though full-hd display presented), but now it must work. If you experience problems - especially on lower screens - please report and I'll try to fix it. There were also several minor fixes/improvements, but not really worth mentioning. Also I am open to proposals (except result sorting & preservance of previously chosen search options, both are necessary but I'm still figuring out how to do it).

Kudos for this beautiful work smeeag ! The code looks awesome too. For what it's worth, if you'd like to stay up-to-date with card text updates, I opted for downloading the CSV file from VEKN directly on bootstrap for KRCG , the small tool I wrote for the Codex site. It's in Python/Flask too, do not hesitate to copy the parts you like if you want, or to run it directly on your side, independently or as a library (its available on Pypi ). If you'd like to work together on a common tool, I'd be up for it.

Smeeag do you code in python? If yes, maybe you can help me in a project. I try to update OCTGN (another online play engine like lackey), but I'm stuck when they change the code to python. Fernando Cesar - Sydnelson LackeyCCG and OCTGN VtES Mantainer Prince of Rio de Janeiro Powerbase Rio de Janeiro

> lip wrote: > For what it's worth, if you'd like to stay up-to-date with card text updates, I opted for downloading the CSV file from VEKN directly on bootstrap for KRCG , the small tool I wrote for the Codex site. > > It's in Python/Flask too, do not hesitate to copy the parts you like if you want, or to run it directly on your side, independently or as a library (its available on Pypi ). > I just tried 'krcg' (in terminal) and it is very useful ('affinity' feature is super neat). I will definetely start to use it my usual deckbuilding workflow. Thanks for the job! And I'll take a look how to utilize your existing code to avoid manual database updates (existing solution) to improve VTES DB. > > Sydnelson wrote: > Smeeag do you code in python? If yes, maybe you can help me in a project. I try to update OCTGN (another online play engine like lackey), but I'm stuck when they change the code to python. > VTES DB is in python, but I'm not like real developer (this is my first/only 'program' and sole purpose to learn python), so my capabilities are very limited. Though, if the task is not big I'll give it a try. Could you create new thread about this project (with task description)? Maybe there will be other fellows ready to help other than me (I never used OTCGN so it could take time just to understand what is happening there).

> lip wrote: > Kudos for this beautiful work smeeag ! > > The code looks awesome too. > > For what it's worth, if you'd like to stay up-to-date with card text updates, I opted for downloading the CSV file from VEKN directly on bootstrap for KRCG , the small tool I wrote for the Codex site. > > It's in Python/Flask too, do not hesitate to copy the parts you like if you want, or to run it directly on your side, independently or as a library (its available on Pypi ). > > If you'd like to work together on a common tool, I'd be up for it. > Your API should probably include retrieving a card with its unique id too Basically, anything using the card names is prone to error because of the variations (Heidelberg/Heidelburg), the use of accents, or things such as the base or advanced version of a vampire. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Oh, good point ☺︎ I added an issue an will try to add that ASAP: github.com/lionel-panhaleux/krcg/issues/14 You can now retrieve cards by ID in KRCG FWIW, note the API can handle a bit of misspelling (like missing accents), and advanced vampires can be fetched just by adding the (ADV) text after the name (like most do). Good bleeding all !