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Erlik's special card ability and Anarch Convert triggers

7 messages from 5 participants · 12 October 2019 – 14 October 2019 · vekn.net/forum
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Millicent

I put in play Erlik and one Anarch Convert on the same turn. I remove the Anarch Convert from the game to make Erlik anarchist and draw a new vampire from the crypt. Can I use the ability from Erlik to distribute blood on the vampire drawed with the Anarch Convert ? Name: Erlik Cardtype: Vampire Clan: Harbinger of Skulls Group: 3 Capacity: 10 Discipline: AUS CEL FOR NEC THN Sabbat: As Erlik enters play, you can distribute up to 5 blood from him to any of your uncontrolled Harbingers of Skulls. +1 bleed. +1 hand size. Name: Anarch Convert Cardtype: Vampire Clan: Caittif Group: Any Capacity: 1 Discipline:- Anarch: As the convert enters play, you can remove him from the game to make a non-titled vampire you control Anarch and either gain 1 pool or draw 1 card from your crypt. Thanks in advance !!

Hakuron

No, because you bring out one vampire first, and after that the other one. If Erlik enters the game first, you can use his special only on potential candidates already in the crypt. National Coordinator Germany nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de

Ankha

> Hakuron wrote: > No, because you bring out one vampire first, and after that the other one. If Erlik enters the game first, you can use his special only on potential candidates already in the crypt. > Correct. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Millicent

> Ankha wrote: > > > Hakuron wrote: > > No, because you bring out one vampire first, and after that the other one. If Erlik enters the game first, you can use his special only on potential candidates already in the crypt. > > > Correct. > Ok, perfect !! Where is this rule placed ? Is not on the rulebook. I can't find another rule about a full blood vamp in uncontrolled region, wich says that this vamp can remain in uncontrolled region. At the beggining, this vamp should go to controlled region.

Palamedes

> Millicent wrote: > I can't find another rule about a full blood vamp in uncontrolled region, wich says that this vamp can remain in uncontrolled region. At the beggining, this vamp should go to controlled region. > www.vekn.net/rulebook/7-influence-phase Rulebook: 7. Influence Phase At any time during this phase, if a vampire has at least as many blood counters as his capacity, the player can move that vampire face up to the ready region, unlocked. CAN, but not MUST. However, this has nothing to do with your original question. The vampire ability resolves as soon as the vampire comes into play, and they come one by one. So if Erlik comes first you resolve his ability immediately.

Millicent

> Palamedes wrote: > > > Millicent wrote: > > I can't find another rule about a full blood vamp in uncontrolled region, wich says that this vamp can remain in uncontrolled region. At the beggining, this vamp should go to controlled region. > > > www.vekn.net/rulebook/7-influence-phase > > Rulebook: > 7. Influence Phase > At any time during this phase, if a vampire has at least as many blood counters as his capacity, the player can move that vampire face up to the ready region, unlocked. > > CAN, but not MUST. > > However, this has nothing to do with your original question. The vampire ability resolves as soon as the vampire comes into play, and they come one by one. So if Erlik comes first you resolve his ability immediately. > Thank you very much !!

Bloodartist

> Palamedes wrote: > www.vekn.net/rulebook/7-influence-phase > > Rulebook: > 7. Influence Phase > At any time during this phase, if a vampire has at least as many blood counters as his capacity, the player can move that vampire face up to the ready region, unlocked. > Also notice the words "at any time". This means that you can sequence things in the influence phase, and bringing vampires up now is a choice, not obligatory. You can bring up anarch convert, turn someone anarch, pull a new card from the crypt, bring up anarch convert to turn that same vampire to anarch, draw a new vampire from the crypt, and move 2 blood to it. Also worth noting that a vampire can have more blood than its capacity while on the uncontrolled zone, it doesnt "drain off" until you bring them to controlled zone, and you don't have to bring them up. You can use any uncontrolled vampire to "store" pool. Theres lots of tricks involving crypt now. ps. The rules involving influence step were changed some time ago. It wasn't always like this. Some old players may remember the old rules. Smoking craters tell no tales. —Tex talks Battletech