How does Extremis Boon actually work?

Just realized that Extremis Boon does not actually explain how it keeps you in the game, as it does not explain what pool you receive. I assume that you somehow get pool as a result of the bidding, but if that's the case, do you get all the pool from all the bidders, or only the pool offered by the highest bidder? Thanks, -Bill Name: Extremis Boon [BH:R] Cardtype: Master Master: out-of-turn. Boon. Only usable when you are being ousted. Other Methuselahs may bid pool to keep you in the game. If one does, put this card in play. As a master phase action, the high bidder may steal up to 2 pool from you. You may burn this card by giving that Methuselah 6 pool during your master phase. Artist: David Day -Killiam (Bill Troxel) "I look back from where I'm from Look at the woman I've become And the strangest things seem Suddenly routine" -Hedwig Robinson

Because on one cares. Its best use is as backing for a PDF card.

Yeah, I get that. For all the years it's been out, I had never seriously considered including it in a deck, even once. At least not until now. It's a good fit in an experimental deck I'm toying with, that heavily focuses on doing favors for other Methuselahs and generally doesn't control any minions until the late game. I know.. crazy talk. But I still need to know how the card works if I'm going to include it. Vincent? Anybody on the rules team? -Killiam (Bill Troxel) "I look back from where I'm from Look at the woman I've become And the strangest things seem Suddenly routine" -Hedwig Robinson

For what it's worth, the few times it's came up in "fun" decks we've handled the bidding similar to one in. > Name: Hostile Takeover > [Jyhad:R, VTES:R, CE:R, KoT:R] > Cardtype: Master > Clan: Ventrue > Cost: 1 pool > Master. > Choose a vampire with capacity of 6 or less. Each Methuselah bids pool for control of that vampire. The highest bid goes to the vampire's controller; that bidder then takes control of the vampire. If the controller wins, half the winning bid (rounded up) goes to the blood bank. > Artist: Mike Raabe; James Stowe > As it was natural to use Jyhad era bidding method. This reply also serves as my reminder to check when official ruling comes in as it affects a card I played and play perhaps once a year (or blue moon). Trust in Jan Pieterzoon.

> Killiam wrote: > Just realized that Extremis Boon does not actually explain how it keeps you in the game, as it does not explain what pool you receive. I assume that you somehow get pool as a result of the bidding, but if that's the case, do you get all the pool from all the bidders, or only the pool offered by the highest bidder? > The winning bid goes to you. Nothing happens to the losers (if any). [LSJ 20031121] > > LSJ wrote: > >The top bid is given to you from the bidder's pool. > > Correct. > The card text would benefit from clarification if it were ever reprinted, but if it were ever to be reprinted, hypothetical goons would be hypothetical hired to hunt down Ben Peal those hypothetically responsible.

> kschaefer wrote: > Because on one cares. Its best use is as backing for a PDF card. > I get the jest, but this is not how the Rules Questions subforum works. It is for questions and answers. This is not to say we can't have a laugh, but let's try to keep in the habit of having the rules topics as informative as possible. Thank you. "Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!" -Nalia De-Arnise garourimgazette.wordpress.com/ www.vekn.net/forum-guidelines

> jamesatzephyr wrote: > > > Killiam wrote: > > Just realized that Extremis Boon does not actually explain how it keeps you in the game, as it does not explain what pool you receive. I assume that you somehow get pool as a result of the bidding, but if that's the case, do you get all the pool from all the bidders, or only the pool offered by the highest bidder? > > > The winning bid goes to you. Nothing happens to the losers (if any). > > [LSJ 20031121] > > > > LSJ wrote: > > >The top bid is given to you from the bidder's pool. > > > > Correct. > > I'll add that the starting bid must be enough to keep you in the game (for instance, if you are losing 5 pool while at 2 pool, the starting bid must be of 4 pool or more). Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

I have been trying to use this card on casual decks as a solution when you are being ousted and no players have life boon available. Main problems being; 1) people don't usually want to keep me in the game 2) The card does not work that well or at all when 3 or 2 players left in the game.

So, an incoming pool loss is happening and this card interrupts that by giving everyone a chance to boost your pool before the loss occurs? In other words, blood counter related ousting effect is queued up rather than ousting having actually occurred? True, not likely to matter, as every time I play Extremis Boon it just gets Suddened by my prey, anyway. Traveller Card Game

> Trochomancy wrote: > Main problems being; 1) people don't usually want to keep me in the game > Main problem: drink all over the keyboard and monitor now Finnish Politics!

> ICL wrote: > So, an incoming pool loss is happening and this card interrupts that by giving everyone a chance to boost your pool before the loss occurs? In other words, blood counter related ousting effect is queued up rather than ousting having actually occurred. > LSJ's "when X is happening" wording tends to map to Ankha's "if X would happen, Y happens instead". See www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/76594-lost-kindred-faq So you end up in a situation of "If you would be ousted, do a bid-pool-to-save-you-but-get-ousted-if-that-doesn't-happen instead". It can't be a "is about to be..." in Ankha's templating, because the thing that's about to happen still happens - you just wedge something else in before it.