Deck Building challenge: Sylvester Simms

Hello all, Because of family reasons I have not been able play any VtES recently, but I have been amusing myself by coming up with convoluted ideas for decks. Here one of my latest demented plots, use Sylvester Simms special as an actual oust mechanish. Make sylvester go torpor several times each turn, to remove pool from whole table, bleed hard enough to make sure your prey is first to fall and bloat so you don't die yourself. That's the basic premise. I'd like to see your take on this. Below is my first draft to use as starting point, though it's still missing the bloat / survival part. Cheers, let your inner Malkavians loose. Sylvester Simms ani dom pre AUS OBF Malkavian Capacity: 8 Group: 1 Camarilla primogen: If Sylvester goes into torpor, each Methuselah burns 1 pool. Deck Name: Sylvester Simms torpor machine v0.1 Author: Mikko Moisander Description: Put fortitude on Sylvester. Bleed, hunt or do table actions and each time play daring the dawn to sent sylvester in torpor netting damage to whole table. Repeat as many times as you can rescue sylvester and untap him. Hopefully your actions hurt your prey faster than other players, you included. Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=1 max=8 avg=4.5) ============================================== 1x Giuliano Vincenzi 2 for Gangrel:1 1x Juan Cali 3 aus for !Ventrue:2 1x Leon 3 ani for !Gangrel:2 1x Lolita 3 for pre !Toreador:2 1x Lázár Dobrescu 3 for Ravnos:2 1x March Halcyon 1 for Pander:2 1x Miriam Benyona 5 for obe AUS Salubri:2 1x Rufina Soledad 2 for Ventrue:1 4x Sylvester Simms 8 ani dom pre AUS OBF Malkavian:1 Library (60 cards) ================== Master (15) 3x Agent of Power 1x Antediluvian Awakening 5x Fortitude 1x Giant's Blood 1x Humanitas 1x Powerbase: Montreal 1x Rack, The 2x Wider View Action (15) 2x Army of Rats 5x Force of Will 2x Pulse of the Canaille 5x Rapid Healing 1x Renewed Vigor Equipment (4) 1x Catacombs 1x Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers 1x Seal of Veddartha 1x Soul Gem of Etrius Action Modifier (15) 10x Daring the Dawn 5x Freak Drive Combat (11) 4x Molotov Cocktail 4x Trap 3x Undead Persistence Created with Secret Library v0.9.4e. (Apr 4, 2018 11:41:33)

What about using AUS to stay alive longer and pressure your prey more. By using AUS + fortitude support vamps you can do that. Also there's good synergy with NEC / OBE here: Also a few conditionings wouldn't hurt: amaranth.vtes.co.nz/#deck/1600d711-6181-412b-a8ff-f4c7a34c9b6b Deck Name: Sylvester Simms (alt crypt + aus) Description: Torn between Mathias and Miriam / crypt ratios could be improved. Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=3 max=8 avg=5.666667) ================== 1x Isabel de Leon 3 AUS Toreador:2 3x Matthias 7 nec AUS FOR OBE Salubri:2 1x Miriam Benyona 5 for obe AUS Salubri:2 4x Sylvester Simms 8 ani dom pre AUS OBF Malkavian:1 1x Billy 5 dom for AUS Ventrue antitribu:2 2x Agaitas, The Scholar of Antiquities6 for AUS NEC Harbinger of Skulls:2 Library: 66 cards Master (19 cards) ================== 4x Fortitude 1x Giant's Blood 1x Humanitas 1x Antediluvian Awakening 1x Powerbase: Montreal 1x Rack, The 3x Villein 2x Wider View 2x Blood Doll 3x Agent of Power Action (12 cards) ================== 3x Force of Will 2x Possession 3x Rapid Healing 3x Renewed Vigor 1x Daemonic Possession Action Modifier (15 cards) ================== 4x Freak Drive 3x Conditioning 8x Daring the Dawn Combat (8 cards) ================== 4x Hidden Strength 2x Soak 2x Weighted Walking Stick Equipment (3 cards) ================== 1x Seal of Veddartha 1x Soul Gem of Etrius 1x Catacombs Reaction (9 cards) ================== 4x Eyes of Argus 2x My Enemy's Enemy 3x Telepathic Misdirection amaranth.vtes.co.nz/#deck/1600d711-6181-412b-a8ff-f4c7a34c9b6b Amaranth Deck Building Tool : VTES NZ : VTES ANZ Facebook

Using lord of serenity could work quite well, I had decent results with it in gangel "torpor Olympics" style decks with catacombs and humanitas.(they add stealth, unsure if it actually reduced the card cost, its been awhile, but I feel like you still have to pay for it...) You could cut in spirit marionette action with the outferior usable as a computer hacking as well.

I understand that Baltimore Purge (BP) not only puts you in torpor, but creates a bunch of table actions, some of which can give you blood. ..And if you are using BP and have fortitude on Sylvester (SS), Renewed Vigor is a good add. SS can use it at outferior to bounce right back from torpor during untap, and if you have a wingman with OBE, you can use it to fill him, which you will likely need to do if he is traveling in and out of torpor so much. I see you have one in your deck already; that’s a start! Cheers! -Killiam (Bill Troxel) "I look back from where I'm from Look at the woman I've become And the strangest things seem Suddenly routine" -Hedwig Robinson

> Killiam wrote: > I understand that Baltimore Purge (BP) not only puts you in torpor, but creates a bunch of table actions, some of which can give you blood. > ! NC Russia

So general idea: 4 Sylvester Simms 3 Leandro 3 Lucian 1 Greger Anderssen 1 Gilbert Duane Masters: Tension itR Fame Madness Network Carver's MPS Actions: Baltimore Purge Alastor -> helicopter, catacombs Banishment Gregory Winter Ossian Offensive Politics Events: White Nights Massacre Stealth Standard reaction package ... ? NC Russia

Or actually... Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 10 average: 7.83333 4x Sylvester Simms 8 AUS OBF ani dom pre primogen Malkavian:1 3x Gilbert Duane 7 AUS DOM OBF prince Malkavian:1 3x Greger Anderssen 7 AUS OBF dom pro prince Malkavian:2 2x Lucian 10 AUS DOM OBF cel tha justicar Malkavian:1 Library [84 cards] Action [10] 1x Aranthebes ... 1x Army of Rats 6x Baltimore Purge 2x Graverobbing Action Modifier/Combat [8] 8x Swallowed by the Night Ally [2] 1x Gregory Winter 1x Ossian Combat [9] 4x Aura Reading 5x Disguised Weapon Equipment [7] 1x Bowl of Convergence 4x Improvised Flamethrower 1x Ivory Bow 1x Sniper Rifle Event [1] 1x White Nights Massacre Master [15] 1x Humanitas 3x Madness Network 1x Pentex(TM) Subversion 1x Powerbase: Montreal 1x Rack, The 1x Rebel 3x Rotschreck 3x Smiling Jack, The Anarch 1x Wider View Political Action [2] 2x Parity Shift Reaction [30] 4x Eagle's Sight 4x Enhanced Senses 4x Eyes of Argus 4x My Enemy's Enemy 8x Second Tradition: Domain 4x Spirit's Touch 2x Telepathic Misdirection NC Russia

> elotar wrote: > Masters: > Tension itR > Probably not, unless you want to oust yourself. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

> elotar wrote: > Masters: > Tension itR > Probably not, unless you want to oust yourself. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Sounds like a job for... Mummify. Talk about a blast from the past when Fame worked different! Just need grafted on, no needed. Oh, and Mummify also unlocks you in its S:CE... and Sylvester Simms has both and . Yes, you can use Fast Reaction or Hidden Lurker as a threat. They block any of your minions -- or take any actions you feel obliged to block -- Sylvester threatens to show up, S:CE and unlock, and throw himself into torpor again. (And for Hidden Lurker, once rescued afterwards Simms is unlocked to do it all over again.)