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Limited Edition V:TES Anthology Set Announced for European Championships in Berlin

94 messages from 34 participants · 23 December 2016 – 06 March 2017 · vekn.net/forum
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Damnans

White Wolf “Nordic” Larps Featured on New Cards White Wolf, Vampire: Elder Kindred Network and Participation | Design | Agency are proud to announce that the 2017 European Championship of Vampire: The Eternal Struggle will be held as an open tournament at the World of Darkness Berlin convention on the 11-14 May, 2017. With the intent of making this event a truly unforgettable experience, White Wolf has licensed P|D|A to publish a Limited Edition 100-card V:TES Anthology Set for the World of Darkness Berlin. Each participant of the convention will receive a copy of the set as part of their registration fee, and they will have the opportunity to pre-order additional sets to be collected at the event. The Anthology Set will consist of a selection of highly sought-after re-prints, cards from various VEKN expansions, and several new cards representing elements of the collaborative-style full immersion live-action roleplaying events End of the Line and Enlightenment in Blood, both of which will be run in Berlin during the convention. The exact contents of the card set will be announced at the end of January. For further information on the World of Darkness Berlin convention, please visit www.worldofdarkness.berlin/. Contact Ginés Quiñonero, Chairman, Vampire Elder Kindred Network email: www.vekn.net/ For questions about the convention, please email or www.worldofdarkness.berlin/ World of Darkness®, White Wolf® and Vampire: the Eternal Struggle® are Copyright© [2016] White Wolf Publishing AB All rights reserved. V:EKN Website Coordinator

Hakuron

My players would like to know the reasoning behind this decision. An entrance fee of 150 EUR still feels unconfortably high (even though you will get something for the "additional 100 EUR"), and it is feared, that the number of participants will be quite low, and that White Wolf might misunderstand that as a sign of low interest in the game and getting it back to print. Thanks in advance! National Coordinator Germany nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de

Damnans

The reasoning behing this decision is that this way we get VTES printed again. We are well aware that 150 EUR is a higher entry fee than normal for a Continental Championship, but the reward is likewise huge. We cannot reveal the contents of the Anthology set until the end of January, but rest assured that they will be worth it. V:EKN Website Coordinator

BenPeal

> Hakuron wrote: > My players would like to know the reasoning behind this decision. > Reasons include and are not exclusive to: - The opportunity to get cards printed for the first time in seven years. - The opportunity to reprint sought-after, expensive cards. - The opportunity to print new cards and cards from VEKN sets. - The opportunity to assemble a team that will have the experience to undertake, hopefully, future such projects. - The opportunity to get V:TES front and center in front of White Wolf. - The opportunity to demonstrate to White Wolf that printing V:TES is a profitable endeavor. - If we turned down this opportunity, you would all fucking kill us.

self biased

"The VEKN should do more to promote the game!" *VEKN promotes Vtes* "NOT LIKE THAT!"

BenPeal

Another reason: - The only other proposal for the 2017 EC was for Palma de Mallorca, so there was going to be a sunk cost no matter what due to the airfare.

M.Schumacher

> self wrote: > "The VEKN should do more to promote the game!" > > *VEKN promotes Vtes* > > "NOT LIKE THAT!" > No. The proposition is to hold the EC in Berlin at a substentially increased cost. Less players might show due to this cost increase. The EC is held with 60 players. WW realizes the player base is slim and not interested/capable of coughing up that kind of money. Plans to reboot Vtes are canceled. This is of course just a worst case scenario but it is understandable why people are interested in the backround of this decision. Im perfectly capable of seeing the reasoning behind this as described by Ben in his post, it is just that there are certain pitfalls associated with it.

Son of Malkav

in first sorry for my english , is not so good i have 2 question 1- 150€ include the tournament ore the cost of the event is 150 € + tournament cost.? 2- European championship will be open so what other tournament will be in that day? legendary? nation cup? first chance ? last chance? 3- for this season National championship and European qualifire have sense maybe thay can qualify for legendary?

Damnans

> Non-existant user wrote: > in first sorry for my english , is not so good > i have 2 question > > 1- 150€ include the tournament ore the cost of the event is 150 € + tournament cost.? > The cost of the VTES events is included in the 150 €. > Non-existant user wrote: > 2- European championship will be open so what other tournament will be in that day? > legendary? nation cup? first chance ? last chance? > The actual format of the European Championship will be announced before the 10th of January. But we are aiming for an open EC Day 1 where the top 40 (for example) will qualify to play EC Day 2. There may obviously be side events and/or other types of tournaments such as the Nations Cup. But it's a bit early to confirm that end. > Non-existant user wrote: > 3- for this season National championship and European qualifire have sense maybe thay can qualify for legendary? > We'll be able to answer that question in January. V:EKN Website Coordinator

Son of Malkav

tx for the realy fast answer bye bye

self biased

> M.Schumacher wrote: > > > self wrote: > > "The VEKN should do more to promote the game!" > > > > *VEKN promotes Vtes* > > > > "NOT LIKE THAT!" > > > No. The proposition is to hold the EC in Berlin at a substentially increased cost. > Less players might show due to this cost increase. > The EC is held with 60 players. > WW realizes the player base is slim and not interested/capable of coughing up that kind of money. > Plans to reboot Vtes are canceled. > > This is of course just a worst case scenario but it is understandable why people are interested in the backround of this decision. Im perfectly capable of seeing the reasoning behind this as described by Ben in his post, it is just that there are certain pitfalls associated with it. > DOOOM! DOOOOOOOM! DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM-uh! I get that a hundred and fifty euros is a steep price tag for a V:tes tourney, even if each set that is included has an effective value over the 150 Euros (two Enkil Cogs will do it by my estimation) but hey, at least Europeans get the chance to just pay the monies and get the set without jumping through ridiculous hoops right? From my understanding (which i pray to the almighty Snips is woefully inaccurate) the EC will be the only place to get this Anthology set. Crow about the entry fee all you want and I'll yell "THAT'S BULLSHIT!" into whatever face you want me to. But realize there's probably* a significant amount of players whose financial hardships for attending this event and getting the "Anthology" cardset go far beyond the cost to walk through the doors. _____ *This set includes everyone who doesn't live in Europe, which is pretty fucking significant.

self biased

so for clarity's sake: Will the "Anthology" set be offered for purchase to people who are incapable of attending the EC? I really need to know because if only EC/Berlin Event people can get these cards I need to start practicing yelling "THAT'S BULLSHIT!" at people to get the inflections right.

Ke.

Good news! good effort. Yes, it's a high cost for a tournament entry fee — but it's a relatively small investment to help with survival of the game. Five months notice is quite short for those travelling from a far though. Hopefully turnout is good. Amaranth Deck Building Tool : VTES NZ : VTES ANZ Facebook

alek

That's great news! Many thanks to all that make it possible! At the same time it rises some questions: 1. Is it one time only or can we hope for vtes coming back to print for good? 2. Would it be possible to buy this new set after the EC? Or is it gonna be only for the chosen (by those I mean people that would be able to attend the WoD event)?

Squidalot

1. we'd like it to be the start of more VTES cards but it's not really under our control, but we hope this set shows WW+partners that VTES is still financially viable. 2. The sets are at Berlin to try and encourage people to go there/account for some of the increased cost over a traditional EC - it's part of the draw [as well as some excellent company]

ruiza97

I agree the set should only be available to those who attend the Berlin tournament. Prince of Dallas Toreador Grand Ball: Dallas August 13, 2022

self biased

why?

ruiza97

Its a special event. Plus, the organizors have determined this to be a good way to show ww that vtes could be viable. Finally, im always on the supportive side once a decision has been made, which in this case its already been made. Prince of Dallas Toreador Grand Ball: Dallas August 13, 2022

jamesatzephyr

> ruiza97 wrote: > I agree the set should only be available to those who attend the Berlin tournament. > But... that's not happening. From the announcement: Each participant of the convention will receive a copy of the set as part of their registration fee, and they will have the opportunity to pre-order additional sets to be collected at the event. People who don't attend will get people who do attend to buy sets for them. There may be a limit - one extra sets, three extra sets, who knows - but I can predict with total certainty that some of those additional sets will get into the hands of people who don't attend Berlin.

ruiza97

Right. If i attend the event, i intend on acquiring sets for my friends who couldn't make the trip. Is that a problem? Prince of Dallas Toreador Grand Ball: Dallas August 13, 2022

self biased

the problem lies in that it's an over-complicated way for someone who is unable to attend to get the cards, and it limits who can buy them by geography.

ruiza97

Oh well, dems the breaks. Prince of Dallas Toreador Grand Ball: Dallas August 13, 2022

gatocion

Hi! I agree that the 150€ fee for entering is a bit high, but I also think that being part of a WoD event and have the support of White Wolf will encourage to make the VTES community grow and have new players at the long term. Also if the Inner Circle has decide it, who are we, low generations to question them? There is much discussion about how many cards sets attendants could be able to get, if non attendants could pre-order them or get them from an attendant friend, what will include the set, if it will be worth more or less than 150€, and so one.... We don't know much about it, so it's an empty discussion, just wait for January and have all the info. Merry Christmas to all! Gatocion P.D. ¡Long life to the Camarilla! VEKN#4200008

mjvtes521

I play in a group of about 10 guys or so in Berkeley, California, USA. I would happily pay 150 Euros to attend the event or just to get one of the Limited edition sets. However, I definitely can't afford to travel to Berlin to attend. I am sure that several, if not all of the players in my playgroup in Berkeley also can't afford to attend but would happily purchase the set as well. I understand that you want to keep it limited to attendees, but if you change your mind, I assure you that there is plenty of interest in the Limited Edition set in the states. Email me at if so. If nothing else, relay my group's interest in the limited edition set to White Wolf. It is exciting to hear that someone would have interest in printing VTES cards, even if it is just a one time thing. Please keep us informed about any future interest in putting this awesome game back in print!

Vlad

> mjvtes521 wrote: > I play in a group of about 10 guys or so in Berkeley, California, USA. I would happily pay 150 Euros to attend the event or just to get one of the Limited edition sets. However, I definitely can't afford to travel to Berlin to attend. I am sure that several, if not all of the players in my playgroup in Berkeley also can't afford to attend but would happily purchase the set as well. I understand that you want to keep it limited to attendees, but if you change your mind, I assure you that there is plenty of interest in the Limited Edition set in the states. Email me at if so. If nothing else, relay my group's interest in the limited edition set to White Wolf. It is exciting to hear that someone would have interest in printing VTES cards, even if it is just a one time thing. Please keep us informed about any future interest in putting this awesome game back in print! > As I will be there I can take some for you and your playgroup, as long as you send me the money first of course ! I have been Prince and Alastor for France for more than ten years (check my number : 8580027) Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

mjvtes521

Wow, thanks for the offer. Do you know how much for shipping? For 2 or 3 sets? Probably best that you email me about it.

ruiza97

It would also help for him to learn more when the details are announced next month. Prince of Dallas Toreador Grand Ball: Dallas August 13, 2022

Vlad

> Vlad wrote: > > > mjvtes521 wrote: > > I play in a group of about 10 guys or so in Berkeley, California, USA. I would happily pay 150 Euros to attend the event or just to get one of the Limited edition sets. However, I definitely can't afford to travel to Berlin to attend. I am sure that several, if not all of the players in my playgroup in Berkeley also can't afford to attend but would happily purchase the set as well. I understand that you want to keep it limited to attendees, but if you change your mind, I assure you that there is plenty of interest in the Limited Edition set in the states. Email me at if so. If nothing else, relay my group's interest in the limited edition set to White Wolf. It is exciting to hear that someone would have interest in printing VTES cards, even if it is just a one time thing. Please keep us informed about any future interest in putting this awesome game back in print! > > > As I will be there I can take some for you and your playgroup, as long as you send me the money first of course ! > I have been Prince and Alastor for France for more than ten years (check my number : 8580027) > I will check the weight of 100 VtES Cards and tell you how much it will cost, no problem. Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

Vlad

> mjvtes521 wrote: > Wow, thanks for the offer. Do you know how much for shipping? For 2 or 3 sets? Probably best that you email me about it. > Mail sent Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

Vlad

What are the date of the EC ? ´cause I believe the 150€ is a 2 day ticket so I don't wanna make a mistake when choosing days... Or maybe did I misread the WODBerlin page Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

Damnans

> Vlad wrote: > What are the date of the EC ? > ´cause I believe the 150€ is a 2 day ticket so I don't wanna make a mistake when choosing days... > Or maybe did I misread the WODBerlin page > Registration for the EC events (and therefore the exact EC days) will be up in a few days. V:EKN Website Coordinator

Vlad

. | Thank you Gines ! Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

rjohnson83

Wow! I literally just got into the game. My cards should be here in a few weeks. I really hope that this turns out well and that the game is able to get some new print sets. Hopefully this set will be made available later on for those of us who will be unable to attend.

Vlad

> mjvtes521 wrote: > Wow, thanks for the offer. Do you know how much for shipping? For 2 or 3 sets? Probably best that you email me about it. > Did you get my mail ? Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

mjvtes521

I just sent you a reply to your email. Let me know if you didn't receive it. Thanks!

ICL

Are there any events likely to be close to when this convention is occurring, whether in Germany or elsewhere in Europe? Traveller Card Game

Lönkka

Not that likely especially as Berlin is not going to require qualification. So no need for all those last minute Qualifiers. Finnish Politics!

Hakuron

> ICL wrote: > Are there any events likely to be close to when this convention is occurring, whether in Germany or elsewhere in Europe? > It depends a bit on how you define "close to" time-wise. National Coordinator Germany nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de

Malocchio

> Vlad wrote: > > > mjvtes521 wrote: > > I play in a group of about 10 guys or so in Berkeley, California, USA. I would happily pay 150 Euros to attend the event or just to get one of the Limited edition sets. However, I definitely can't afford to travel to Berlin to attend. I am sure that several, if not all of the players in my playgroup in Berkeley also can't afford to attend but would happily purchase the set as well. I understand that you want to keep it limited to attendees, but if you change your mind, I assure you that there is plenty of interest in the Limited Edition set in the states. Email me at if so. If nothing else, relay my group's interest in the limited edition set to White Wolf. It is exciting to hear that someone would have interest in printing VTES cards, even if it is just a one time thing. Please keep us informed about any future interest in putting this awesome game back in print! > > > As I will be there I can take some for you and your playgroup, as long as you send me the money first of course ! > I have been Prince and Alastor for France for more than ten years (check my number : 8580027) > I live in Florida,USA and also play with a small group. I would be very interested in getting a set of the Anthology cards if you are able to purchase more. Please email me if you would be able to at

chrisn101

(Happy New Year all.) Echoing several of the previous posts... myself and I imagine at least two other players in our local group here in the UK would theoretically be very happy to purchase a set each (depending on contents vs how much the additional sets would cost plus any P&P/ beer money for the kind ferryman), but none of us have a particular interest in tournament play or the time or resources spare to travel to Berlin (we've all entered the 'weddings/young ones' phase of our lives). It's a real shame that there isn't a shop mechanism for VEKN members to order a copy. We certainly await future announcements with anticipation

ICL

> Hakuron wrote: > > > ICL wrote: > > Are there any events likely to be close to when this convention is occurring, whether in Germany or elsewhere in Europe? > > > It depends a bit on how you define "close to" time-wise. > Within two weeks of the weekend, either before or after. Traveller Card Game

Stone

> BenPeal wrote: > > - If we turned down this opportunity, you would all fucking kill us. > Wow. That's some pep talk. Almost as good as 'Oh and a few old cards banned.' when you ('you' meaning VEKN) fucking killed the motivation of many by banning Anthelios/ToGP/seeds of corruption. Time will tell on the EC attendance, of course. But if it turns out to be a 50-something players event, take a look back at the decisions made instead of blaming the players.

Brum

> Stone wrote: > > > BenPeal wrote: > > > > - If we turned down this opportunity, you would all fucking kill us. > > > Wow. That's some pep talk. Almost as good as 'Oh and a few old cards banned.' when you ('you' meaning VEKN) fucking killed the motivation of many by banning Anthelios/ToGP/seeds of corruption. > > Time will tell on the EC attendance, of course. But if it turns out to be a 50-something players event, take a look back at the decisions made instead of blaming the players. > When have the VEKN blamed the players for anything that happened?

ruiza97

> Stone wrote: > > > BenPeal wrote: > > > > - If we turned down this opportunity, you would all fucking kill us. > > > Wow. That's some pep talk. Almost as good as 'Oh and a few old cards banned.' when you ('you' meaning VEKN) fucking killed the motivation of many by banning Anthelios/ToGP/seeds of corruption. > Jesus take the wheel, no one is stopping anyone from playing banned cards at home. Play Anthelios if your play group is ok with it. Prince of Dallas Toreador Grand Ball: Dallas August 13, 2022

Lönkka

> Stone wrote: > Wow. That's some pep talk. Almost as good as 'Oh and a few old cards banned.' when you ('you' meaning VEKN) fucking killed the motivation of many by banning Anthelios/ToGP/seeds of corruption. > "You banned my favorite cards. The only ones that made my deck work. I do not have any other decks. I will now stop playing the game since the banning has been used too much already. *Whine whine whine*" There is now total of 15 banned cards in VTES. That is way less than one banned card per year. Grow a pair, will you! About the Berlin EC: AFAIK, this was a (only?) shot of getting cards printed again, so the IC decided to take it. Hopefully this will lead to even more cards being printed. How is this bad? Finnish Politics!

elotar

Each time I'll see the talk that bannings was unjustified I would add list of cards which should be banned: 1. All Imbueds 2. All Events 3. Conditioning 4. Deep Song 5. Ashur Tablets 6. Villein 7... (maybe more, just haven't thought about them yet) NC Russia

rjohnson83

Wow. This thread sure did devolve into a dumpster fire. Think we could try to keep it on topic?

Ezra

> elotar wrote: > Each time I'll see the talk that bannings was unjustified I would add list of cards which should be banned: > > 1. All Imbueds > 2. All Events > 3. Conditioning > 4. Deep Song > 5. Ashur Tablets > 6. Villein > 7... (maybe more, just haven't thought about them yet) > Could we ban you instead ? It's getting incredibly boring to read you whining about cards nearly everywhere. Maxime Socroun, 3200321

cordovader

> Ezra wrote: > > > elotar wrote: > > Each time I'll see the talk that bannings was unjustified I would add list of cards which should be banned: > > > > 1. All Imbueds > > 2. All Events > > 3. Conditioning > > 4. Deep Song > > 5. Ashur Tablets > > 6. Villein > > 7... (maybe more, just haven't thought about them yet) > > > Could we ban you instead ? It's getting incredibly boring to read you whining about cards nearly everywhere. > Hahaha I was thinking the same. Maybe then could also design a card to ban players that trade cards during games.

gatocion

Hi! I think this is getting out of hands, it was a News& Announcment post and it turn into a batllefield.... Could we keep it to the topic? P.D. Where is the Sheriff of this Elysium? ;P VEKN#4200008

Vlad

So let's get back to the topic ! Who's coming to Berlin ? 1. Me 2. Darkal (Louis Fortier Adv.) 3. His brother Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

gatocion

Hi! Right now, from Spain, there are 12 players who have intention to go to Berlin. We have an organizational post here . VEKN#4200008

cordovader

Tournament planning information should be available today or I am missing something ?

BenPeal

> cordovader wrote: > Tournament planning information should be available today or I am missing something ? > The person at PDA who's capable of setting that information to "public" on the website won't be back from their trip to Thailand until tomorrow. :/

Damnans

> cordovader wrote: > Tournament planning information should be available today or I am missing something ? > That is correct but, for reasons beyond our control, it will most likely be available tomorrow. V:EKN Website Coordinator

Vlad

(( Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

Vlad

And now the content of the Anthology Set Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

Damnans

> Vlad wrote: > And now the content of the Anthology Set > As per the official announcement, the exact contents of the set will be announced by the end of January. www.vekn.net/2-uncategorised/362-limited-edition-v-tes-anthology-set-announced-for-european-championships-in-berlin V:EKN Website Coordinator

Vlad

> Damnans wrote: > > > Vlad wrote: > > And now the content of the Anthology Set > > > As per the official announcement, the exact contents of the set will be announced by the end of January. > > www.vekn.net/2-uncategorised/362-limited-edition-v-tes-anthology-set-announced-for-european-championships-in-berlin > What ? We can't use Temporis to fast forward to this announcement ?? ^-^ Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

nisu_advanced

But Damnans we ARE in the last 20 days of January!!!!!!!! I don't want to live in a world where this is not considered to be at the end of January...

Damnans

> nisu_advanced wrote: > But Damnans we ARE in the last 20 days of January!!!!!!!! > > I don't want to live in a world where this is not considered to be at the end of January... > Almost there, yeah The deadline for artwork is January 27. So the contents of the set will be announced after that day. V:EKN Website Coordinator

Vlad

Soon... Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

Zoroh

Soooooooo, are we there yet? Keep walking...

BenPeal

All files for the Anthology Set - card list, card text, artwork, art contracts, etc. - have been submitted to PDA on time for review and approval. Once we have the approval from PDA to announce the card list, we'll do so immediately.

Blooded Sand

will this set be available anywhere else? As $2500 for a 100 card set and tourney entry is a touch pricey. Flight tickets to Europe are pricey

alek

Is there any date known when we should get approval from PDA for new cards?

Lönkka

I would assume that since no such date has been brought up previously, there is none. We get the approval when we get it... Finnish Politics!

hardyrange

The card list has been published - see bottom of this page: www.worldofdarkness.berlin/vtes Also, the pre-ordering for additional sets has begun, open through 03 March. "It was a perfect plan - until it had contact with reality" --- Hardy Range Playgroup Tradition Compliance Manager

Sm0k3rz

There's a way to know the text for the new cards?

Vlad

Great news !!! And a very nice set !!! You've done a really good job Pentex Board of Directors Prince of Oye Plage Alastor Grand Nord

PetriWessman

Yeah, great card selection, good job guys! I mean, lots of hard-to-get cards + actual print copies of a lot of good PDF-set stuff + 11 new vampires (?). Fantastic!

blackday

Any chance one can purchase through the preorder, and have someone else who will be there pick it up?

Lönkka

383 euros is what I managed to get as the total price what just the reprints are currently fetching. The values were obtained from completed Ebay listings that actually someone paid something for (completed and unsold prices were disregarded). I totaled the sum of each completed sale and divided it accordingly. People might not agree on certain, or any, of the prices but these are the prices these items have moved for recently... 53 Enkil Cog 39 (13ea) 3 x Ashur's Tablets 13 The Unmasking 25 Monastery of Shadows 8 Carlton Van Wyk 6 Liquidation 13 Heart of Nizchetus 15 Unleash Hell's Fury 22 New Carthage 44 (11ea) 4 x Eyes of Argus 28 (7ea) 4 x Deep Song 12 (4ea) 3 x Target: Vitals 27 (9ea) 3 x Shroud of Absence 60 (20ea) 3 x Summon History 18 (9ea) 2 x Anarch Convert total 383 euros Finnish Politics!

Blooded Sand

This set is essentially a big fat fuck you to anyone not living in the EU.

Lönkka

Oh, Mr Pottymouth... Please check my reply to you in the thread you begun on the subject: www.vekn.net/forum/generic-v-tes-discussion/75580-anthololgy-set-or-fu-non-eu-players Finnish Politics!

ICL

Is there a limit to how many sets are going to be printed? Is there any reason one person couldn't order 1000 sets? Sure, the initial option for how many you want goes up to 10, but is there anything to stop someone from ordering more than 10? If there are meaningful limits on what can be arranged for a con goer, then, sure, that limits availability significantly. If somebody, let's say a German game seller with an international online presence, can just "attend" the con and buy a 1000 sets, seems like that would make availability somewhat more common, even finding a way to navigate shipping internationally at reasonable markup for shipping, duty, taxes, whatever. I'm actually quite interested in answers to the questions above as a number of locals are chiming in about wanting 3 sets apiece, which quickly adds up to a ... lot ... of sets. Traveller Card Game

Lönkka

> ICL wrote: > Is there a limit to how many sets are going to be printed? > > Is there any reason one person couldn't order 1000 sets? Sure, the initial option for how many you want goes up to 10, but is there anything to stop someone from ordering more than 10? > No, they themselves today said that the 10 is just the website's limit (apparently thought that no one would need more?) and that you could order as many as you wanted. I'd assume that they'll take the the extra orders into account when making the print run. I do not have any idea about the number they were planning to print. > ICL wrote: > ven finding a way to navigate shipping internationally at reasonable markup for shipping, duty, taxes, whatever. > Duties and taxes are paid on the receiving end and are of no concern to the shipper. Finnish Politics!

Lönkka

> ICL wrote: > If there are meaningful limits on what can be arranged for a con goer, then, sure, that limits availability significantly. If somebody, let's say a German game seller with an international online presence, can just "attend" the con and buy a 1000 sets... > Heck, the company I work for s already selling basically the overwhelming majority of remainder of the VTES boosters and decks. If it was possible for us to purchase the remainder of the printrun of the Anthology Set after the event we'd do that in a drop of a hat! Finnish Politics!

fredsct

> ICL wrote: > If somebody, let's say a German game seller with an international online presence, can just "attend" the con and buy a 1000 sets, seems like that would make availability somewhat more common, even finding a way to navigate shipping internationally at reasonable markup for shipping, duty, taxes, whatever. > That is precisely the kind of thing I was hoping for when I made my post to the trading post forum. Fred

blackday

Wait, gonna ask a question. The site gives a cap of 10 preorders per person going. Is that a limit set per person? or can you make multiple orders on the site?

Damnans

You can make multiple orders on the site. V:EKN Website Coordinator

ICL

What's the packaging going to be like for the sets? For instance, can sets just be dropped into a standard white card box? Affects whether to bring empty boxes or not. Traveller Card Game

BenPeal

> M.Schumacher wrote: > No. The proposition is to hold the EC in Berlin at a substentially increased cost. > Less players might show due to this cost increase. > The EC is held with 60 players. > WW realizes the player base is slim and not interested/capable of coughing up that kind of money. > Plans to reboot Vtes are canceled. > There are currently 83 players pre-registered for the EC. Based on pre-orders, White Wolf and PDA are very impressed with the high demand for the Anthology Set.

Ankha

> ICL wrote: > What's the packaging going to be like for the sets? > > For instance, can sets just be dropped into a standard white card box? > > Affects whether to bring empty boxes or not. > Bring out some boxes, just in case. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Lönkka

Getting the cards is of course the priority, but not getting a box would be, erm, not cool. Besides, there are people who have bought a couple of dozen sets so bringing extras is not all that viable a plan. But I guess that we'll get an announcement about the boxes (or lack of them) closer to the event, right? Finnish Politics!

Lönkka

> BenPeal wrote: > There are currently 83 players pre-registered for the EC. > Not bad! I hope not that many will drop out. I kinda expect that after today (the dealine for purchasing additional sets) the number of new attendees will lessen dramatically. > BenPeal wrote: > Based on pre-orders, White Wolf and PDA are very impressed with the high demand for the Anthology Set. > Doubleplusgood! Or even, mission accomplished. Finnish Politics!

BenPeal

> Lönkka wrote: > > > BenPeal wrote: > > There are currently 83 players pre-registered for the EC. > > > Not bad! > I hope not that many will drop out. > We are currently at 107.

Blooded Sand

Ben, we have a buying group that has already ordered 50 sets, but have realised an email chain went missing, and need another 50 more. i understand that orders are closed, is there any way to swing this? I'm guessing an extra 1000 Euros is worth it maybe.... Please let me know asap, people are anxious and REALLY want those cards.| The group is representative of players from South Africa, North America, some antipodeans

BenPeal

> Blooded wrote: > Ben, we have a buying group that has already ordered 50 sets, but have realised an email chain went missing, and need another 50 more. i understand that orders are closed, is there any way to swing this? > > I'm guessing an extra 1000 Euros is worth it maybe.... Please let me know asap, people are anxious and REALLY want those cards.| > > The group is representative of players from South Africa, North America, some antipodeans > Email Troels Barkholt-Spangsbo of PDA at asap. I'm certain something can be worked out.

Blooded Sand

> BenPeal wrote: > > > Blooded wrote: > > Ben, we have a buying group that has already ordered 50 sets, but have realised an email chain went missing, and need another 50 more. i understand that orders are closed, is there any way to swing this? > > > > I'm guessing an extra 1000 Euros is worth it maybe.... Please let me know asap, people are anxious and REALLY want those cards.| > > > > The group is representative of players from South Africa, North America, some antipodeans > > > Email Troels Barkholt-Spangsbo of PDA at asap. I'm certain something can be worked out. > Thank you, email sent

hardyrange

> BenPeal wrote: > > > Lönkka wrote: > > > > > BenPeal wrote: > > > There are currently 83 players pre-registered for the EC. > > > > > Not bad! > > I hope not that many will drop out. > > > We are currently at 107. > I just counted 105 registered players (after deleting entries for persons who registered twice, or in one case three times), from 21 countries. Very impressive, and this really addresses my fears that the high entry fee would negatively affect attendance.... "It was a perfect plan - until it had contact with reality" --- Hardy Range Playgroup Tradition Compliance Manager

Trochomancy

Great to see such a big interest for the event & anthology set. Questions: - Are the reprint & PDF set cards tournament legal already on EC events (as long as you use opaque sleeves)? - How about the new Larp related cards?

self biased

> Trochomancy wrote: > Great to see such a big interest for the event & anthology set. > > Questions: > > - Are the reprint & PDF set cards tournament legal already on EC events (as long as you use opaque sleeves)? > - How about the new Larp related cards? >

BenPeal

> Trochomancy wrote: > Great to see such a big interest for the event & anthology set. > > Questions: > > - Are the reprint & PDF set cards tournament legal already on EC events (as long as you use opaque sleeves)? > - How about the new Larp related cards? > The matter has been under consideration by the Rules Team since...er...I think since the Anthology Project started. They've been focussed on getting the Anthology Set itself ready for print and recently circled back to discuss tournament questions. We'll have an answer soon.