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EC 2016 - FCQ transcript

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Pascal Bertrand

FCQ Finals Transcript I don't have the pre-finals rankings. Bleed order : Martin > Maxime > Jeroen > Franz > Tom Martin : Stanislava Maxime : Lutz / Unmada Jeroen : Guillaume Giovanni Franz : Anneke & guns Tom : Weenie ani Tom is first to play. Turn 1 Tom Influence out Lisa Noble. Martin Plays Dreams of the Sphinx. Taps DotS for 1 on uncontrolled. [Influences 2 on the same] Discards Vele's Hunt. Maxime Plays Zillah's Valley. [Influences 3 on the same] Discards Disputed Territory Jeroen Plays Barrens. Influences 3 on X. Discards Nocturn. Franz Discussion with Martin about contesting Dreams of the Sphinx. Agreement on using it from Martin. Influence 4 on X. Turn 2 Tom Lisa Noble bleeds for 1. No block. Inluence out Stick. Martin Taps DotS for 2 cards. Plays Monastery of Shadows. Influences 4 on same. Discards Deflection. Discards down (DotS) Murmur of the False Will, Earth Control Maxime Plays Zillah's Valley on other one. Influences 3 on first and 1 on other. Unmada comes out. Jeroen taps Barrens and discards Summon Soul. Maxime discards Zillah's Valley and Anarchist Uprising (Unmada). Jeroen Taps Barrens, discards Seduction. Influences 4 on same. Discards Gran Madre de Dio (Italy). Franz Influences 4 on same. Turn 3 Tom Gains 1 for the Edge. Blood Doll on Stick (not used). Stick gets a Raven Spy - no block. Lisa Noble bleeds for 1 - no block. Pays 1 pool and 4 transfers to draw from crypt. Martin Taps (and burns) DotS for 2 cards. Transfers 4 on Stanislava (who comes out). Discards Reins of Power. Discards down Parity Shift, Form of Mist (DotS). Maxime Villein for 5 on Unmada. Zillah's Valley on same as previously. Asks Franz for a vote card in his hand. Discussion about KRC 2 on Martin, 2 on Jeroen. Franz : "I will burn the Edge for 2 pool on Martin" Unmada plays Kine Resources Contested - no block. Terms : 2 on Martin, 2 on Jeroen. Unmada + KRC in favour, Stanislava against. Franz burns the Edge in favour. Martin discards a Parity Shift against. Referendum fails. Influence out Lutz and 1 on other one. Discards Mental Maze, Zillah's Valley. Jeroen Taps Barrens, discards Nocturn. Plays Metro Underground. Influence 2 on the same and 2 on other. Guillaume Giovanni comes out. Franz Plays Dreams of the Sphinx. Taps Dreams for 1 from the bank on the same vampire. Influence 1 on the same and 3 on another. Anneke comes out. Discards Quicken Sight. Turn 4 Tom Gives 1 blood to Stick (Blood Doll). Lisa bleeds for 1 - no block. Stick bleeds for 1 - no block. Influence 1 +2 on the same + 1. Clarissa Steinburgen and Anarch Convert come out, Anarch Convert converts Stick, draw a card from crypt. Martin Villein for 7 on Stanislava. Plays Ennoia's Theater, comments "Great card!" Stanislava plays sup' Govern the Unaligned - no block. Transfers 4 on the same. Discards Villein. Maxime Discussion about Parity Shift, offers 2 - for Anneke's votes. Offers 3 for Anneke's votes - Franz : "I'm in for 3". Jeroen : "Are you persuadable (for bocking) for less?" Unmada plays Parity Shift. Jeroen offers 2 turns of no pressure against Franz for a block. No block attempts. Terms : 5 from Jeroen, 3 to Franz, 2 to Maxime. PS + Lutz + Unmada in favour, Stanislava against. Referendum succeeds. Maxime : "Can Lutz bleed?" - Franz : "You can bleed." Lutz bleeds for 3. Guillaume attempts to block. Superior Elder Impersonation. No blocks. Superior Deflection to Franz. No blocks. Superior Telepathic Misdirection to Tom. Clarissa attempts to block and succeeds. Hands for 1 vs Hands for 1, Clarissa plays Taste of Vitae. Discards Zillah's Valley, Zillah's Valley. Jeroen Plays Information Highway. Guillaume plays inferior Nocturn - no block. Guillaume plays superior GtU on the same - no block. Nocturn plays Mylan Horseed (Goblin) - no block. Influence 3 on the same - Baldesar Rosselini comes out. Discards Chair of Hades. Franz Minion Tap for 4 on Anneke. Anneke bleeds for 2. On the Qui Vive from Clarissa, attempts to block - no stealth. Before range : Anneke plays sup' Infernal Pursuit, discards Concealed Weapon. Hands for 1 vs Hands for 1. Anneke plays Taste of Vitae, discards Resist Earth's Grasp. Tap DotS for 1 from bank on the same. Influence 4 on the same : Marcellus comes out. Turn 5 Tom Gain 1 from the Edge. Martin taps Ennoia's Theater to increase hand size. Lisa bleeds for 2 with Deep Song. Martin : "No block, does Anneke want to block?" Anneke plays On the Qui Vive, attempts to block and succeeds. Hands for 1 vs Hands for 1. Lisa plays Taste of Vitae. Clarissa bleeds for 1 - no block. Influence 4 on Bobby Lemon. Discards Raven Spy. Martin discards down Dreams of the Sphinx. Martin Taps Ennoia's Theater to increase hand size. Plays Eco Terrorists. Martin : "I don't know if I should bleed, Maxime can play Telepathic Misdi"; Jeroen : "I can play Combat Ends." Tap EcoTerrorists on the same. Influence 1 on the same : Ingrid Rossler comes out. Discards Earth Control. Discards down Dreams of the Sphinx. Maxime Maxime: "With what I have in my hand, I can oust Jeroen this turn." Jeroen taps Barrens, discards Summon Soul. Maxime: "I give Anneke 5 pool from Parity Shift, and I let you get your VP." Franz : "What are Jeroen's plans against Maxime?" Jeroen : "Shambling Hordes + Sup GtU". Martin's plays depend on Jeroen's actions. Franz : "I'm not helping you kill your prey, there is no benefit for me." Tom : "If you're making a deal, I'm going to have to rush Unmada / Lutz." Golconda: Inner Peace on Stanislava. Martin : "Cycling or burning?" Martin burns 2 pool. Unmada hunts - no block. Discards Zillah's Valley. Jeroen Wall Street Financial ..., using discount. Guillaume plays inf Nocturn - no block. Jeroen : "Can I get a Shambling Hordes?" Franz : "OK". Guillaume plays Shambling Hordes - no block. Removes Nocturn from ash heap. Mylan untaps Guillaume - no block. Baldesar plays sup' GtU, with Seduction on Unmada - no block. Transfers 3 back to pool. Discards Dominate Kine. Franz Taps DotS for cards. Plays Ercyies Fragments. Marcellus bleeds for 2 - no block. Anneke bleeds for 2 - Bobby blocks. Anneke plays Concealed Weapon, gets .44 Magnum. Bobby plays Carrion Crows. Anneke maneuvers from Magnum. Bobby strikes with Aid from Bats. No press. Franz taps Ercyies for a Taste of Vitae, plays it. Transfers 1. Discards Second Tradition. Discards down Eyes of Argus, Telepathic Misdi. Turn 6 Tom Fame on Anneke. Tom : "I won't rush Martin this turn, too many S:CE" Bobby Lemon plays Army of Rats - no block. Stick plays Field Training on Clarissa (gets ANI, becomes anarch). Marcellus plays Second Tradition, blocks. Hands for 1 vs Hands for 1. Clarissa bleeds for 1 - no blocks. Stanislava plays Murmur of the False Will to Maxime. Unmada plays On the Qui Vive, blocks. Clarissa plays Aid from Bats to maneuver (and strike). Pays 1 pool and 4 transfers to draw a crypt card. Discards Raven Spy. Martin Taps ET to increase hand size. Villein for 7 on Ingrid. Plays Papillon. Taps Ecoterrorists + influences 1 on same. Discards Villein. Discards down Anarchist Uprising. Maxime Villein for 5 on Lutz. Maxime asks Franz how he feels about the previous deal - ousting Jeroen, giving Franz 5 pool from Parity Shift. How about KRC 2 on Jeroen, 2 on Tom? Lutz hunts - Shambling attempts to block with intercept from Wall Street. Forgotten Labyrinth, no block. Influences 4 on the same. Jeroen Plays Powerbase: Montreal. Guillaume plays inf Nocturn - no block. Guillaume recruits Gianna di Canneto. To Franz : "I will not use it against your vampires." No block. Shambling Hordes enter in combat with Lutz. Unmada blocks. Mental Maze. Baldesar plays sup GtU - no block. Myltan untaps Baldeser - no block. Influence?? Discards Far Mastery Franz Gains 1 from the Edge. Plays Fame (contested with Tom) on Lisa Noble. Anneke bleeds for 2. On the Qui Vive from Bobby Lemon who attempts to block. Anneke plays sup Crocodile's Tongue. No block. Marcellus bleeds for 2. Lisa Noble attempts to block. Sup Crocodile's Tongue. No block. Influences 4, Felicia Molstrom comes out. [ the other final table ends here, hence a 3 min break] Turn 7 Tom Pays the Fame contest. Stick plays Field Training on Clarissa. Felicia plays inf Telepathic Misdi and blocks. Carrion Crows + maneuvers with Aid from Bats, press from AfB, maneuvers with AfB. Felicia goes to torpor. Bobby takes control of PB:Montreal - no block. Jeroen discards Centralized Background Check. Influence 1 back, 1 on other +1 on same from Montreal. Mouse comes out. Franz to Martin : "Can you rescue me?" Discards Groundfighting. Martin Taps ET. Plays Backways. Ingrid burns the Army of Rats. Mouse attempts to block. Backways for stealth, no block. Army of Rats burns. Uses EcoTerrorists and takes 3 back to pool. Discards Beast Meld. Discards down Earth Control. Maxime To Franz : "Do you agree with an Anarchist Uprising?" Franz : "I will agere." Tom to Maxime : "I will have to rush you." Unmada plays Parity Shift. Nocturn attempts to block with WSFP. Forgotten Labyrinth. Jeroen taps Barrens, discards Spiritual Intervention. No block. Terms : 5 from Jeroen, 4 to Maxime, 1 to Franz. Referendum passes. Lutz plays Ancilla Empowerment. No block. Referendum passes. Influences 4 on same : Undele comes out. Discards Pentex Subversion and Zillah's Valley. Jeroen Plays Storage Annex. Baldesar bleeds. No block. Conditioning. Franz taps Ercyies for On the Qui Vive. Anneke plays On the Qui Vive (from Ercyies) and Telepathic Misdirection to Tom. Lisa blocks. Aid from Bats to long range, Baldesar plays Dodge. Lisa plays Taste of Vitae. Guillaume hunts - no blocks. Mylan untaps Guillaume - no blocks. Guillaume bleeds. Marcellus plays On The Qui Vive. Stealth from Call the Hungry Dead. Anneke plays Second Tradition. Stealth from Shroud of Absence. Action is blocked. Gianna burns the .44 Magnum. Guillaume strikes with Spiritual Intervention. Taps Barrens, discards Parthenon. Shambling Hords rush Lutz. Undele blocks. Hands for 4 vs Hands for 1. Discards Hunting Ground. Franz Edge pays for the Fame contest. Plays Pentex Subversion on Clarissa. Marcellus bleeds for 2 - no block. Anneke bleeds for 2 - Bobby plays OtQV and blocks. Carrion Crows. Anneke plays Side Strike (dodge?) and goes to torpor. Discards Enchant Kindred. Turn 8 Tom Pays for the Fame contest. Move 1 blood from Stick to pool. Lisa Noble diablerizes Anneke. Marcellus plays 2nd Trad and blocks. Hands for 0 vs Hands for 1. Bobby burns the Pentex Subversion. Erciyes on OtQV, Marcellus plays OtQV from Ercyies and blocks. Sup' carrion Crows. Sup Aid from Bats to maneuver. Marcellus plays Pursuit to come back to close. AfB+CC vs Hands for 1. Marcellus goes to torpor. Mouse burns Pentex Subversion - no block. PB:M to gain 1 pool. Jeroen to Martin : "Can you bleed as hard as you can?" Martin : "OK". Discards Deep Song. Martin Tap ET Papillon gives 2 blood to Ingrid. Plays Jake Washington (Hunter). Stanislava bleeds - no block. Conditioning. Ingrid Rossler calls Ancilla Empowerment. Stick attempts to block. Backways for stealth. Stick plays Protection Racket for +2 intercept. Stealth from Rapid Change, Monastery of Shadows. No block. Jeroen is ousted. Tom is ousted. Discards ?Domain Challenge?. Discards down Deflection. Maxime Villein for 2 on Undele. (some incorrect calls to the judge on the amount of pool he had). Plays Metro Underground. Lutz plays Banishment - no block. Terms: Ingrid. Referendum passes. Undele brings KRC x2 from ash heap - no block. Discards down Telepathic Misdirection, Mental Maze. Unmada bleeds - no block. Plays Enkil Cog. Untap Unmada with Metro Underground. Discards Mental Maze, Forgotten Labyrinth. Franz Gets Dreams with Ercyies, plays Dreams from Ercyies. Pays 1 to draw 1 card from crypt. Dreams 1 to new crypt card. Discards Quicken Sight. Turn 9 Martin [?? Papillon ??] Stanislava rescues Anneke. Taps ET. Maxime taps Enkil Cog, Unmada plays Banishment. Franz plays Direct Intervention. Unmada plays KRC - no block. Terms : 3 to Franz, 1 to Martin. Referendum passes. EcoTerrorists + influence out Ingrid Rossler Discards Deflection. Maxime Plays Information Highway. Unmada plays KRC - no block. Terms : 2 on Franz, 2 on Martin. KRC + Lutz + Unmada + Undele in favour, Stanislava + Anneke + Ingrid against. Referendum passes. Franz is ousted. Lutz plays Banishment, no block. Terms : Ingrid Rossler. Martin is ousted. Maxime 4 VPs Franz 1 VP

Ezra

Thanks for the transcript ! Maxime Socroun, 3200321

Tendoncutter

Thanks indeed. Interesting to read the different small talk and bargaining going on during a match. Deals in my playgroup are usually limited to who gets waht in KRC referendums, but not much else. Room for improvement

Ezra

Funny you say that, because for me there was not a lot of small talk/deal in this final. I guess we (french players) deal and talk a lot. Maxime Socroun, 3200321

Ezra

> Pascal wrote: > FCQ Finals Transcript > > I don't have the pre-finals rankings. > Jeroen (Guillaume Giovanni), 2GW8.5 Tommi (Weenie Ani) 2GW8.5 Franz (Anneke) 2GW7.5 Martin (Stanislava) 2GW6 Maxime (Unmada Lutz) 2GW5.5 And if I remember well, the seating went like that : Maxime Martin > Maxime Martin > Maxime > Franz Martin > Maxime > Tommi > Franz Martin > Maxime > Jeroen > Franz Maxime Socroun, 3200321

Ke.

> Pascal wrote: > Maxime taps Enkil Cog, Unmada plays Banishment. Franz plays Direct Intervention. Unmada plays KRC - no block. > Is this legal? Enkil cog tapped to play Banishment, DI played and Unmada untaps. Surely Unmada is unable to act again as the Cog is already tapped? (even if the action was cancelled). Relevant text: "this vampire may tap this card to attempt an action" Amaranth Deck Building Tool : VTES NZ : VTES ANZ Facebook

cordovader

> Ke. wrote: > > > Pascal wrote: > > Maxime taps Enkil Cog, Unmada plays Banishment. Franz plays Direct Intervention. Unmada plays KRC - no block. > > > Is this legal? > > Enkil cog tapped to play Banishment, DI played and Unmada untaps. Surely Unmada is unable to act again as the Cog is already tapped? (even if the action was cancelled). > > Relevant text: > > "this vampire may tap this card to attempt an action" > The only reasonable explanation I can come to is the same case as Creepshow Casino/Warsaw Station. You still benefit from it's effects when you get DIed, since the action never took place. I guess it's either that or no one noticed. Either way, I'm not sure it would have changed the outcome of the game.

Ankha

> Ke. wrote: > > > Pascal wrote: > > Maxime taps Enkil Cog, Unmada plays Banishment. Franz plays Direct Intervention. Unmada plays KRC - no block. > > > Is this legal? > > Enkil cog tapped to play Banishment, DI played and Unmada untaps. Surely Unmada is unable to act again as the Cog is already tapped? (even if the action was cancelled). > > Relevant text: > > "this vampire may tap this card to attempt an action" > I can't find LSJ's post about that (I'm on my phone in a foreign country), but the sequencing is the following: 1/ you tap Enkil Cog to announce an action 2/ you announce your action (with an action card in this case) 3/ as the card is played, it can be cancelled 4/ in that case, you go back to step 2 and you can announce another action 5/ if you don't, the Enkil Cog stays tapped and nothing happens So yes, it's legal. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Pascal Bertrand

I followed this ruling : groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/WTI7PDiWqy0/lcdjq0mwekQJ > With the Cog tapped and pending, the Cog'ed minion still has the > impulse to declare an action (or let the Cog fizzle, at which point the impulse > would again go back to A). >