I was recently trying to point a new player to decks in TWDA and found that the site is down - are other people having the same problem, or is just me? Anything I can do to help get it back up?
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I also host a google doc which separates the TWDA into clans . That means I track how often clans win, which crypt groups get used, and how many people attend events. You can access all of that info here:
> brettscho wrote:
> I was recently trying to point a new player to decks in TWDA and found that the site is down - are other people having the same problem, or is just me? Anything I can do to help get it back up?
>
I think it's not available at the moment because the website where it was hosted (VEKN France) is being migrated to another server.
V:EKN Website Coordinator
> brettscho wrote:
> I was recently trying to point a new player to decks in TWDA and found that the site is down - are other people having the same problem, or is just me? Anything I can do to help get it back up?
>
Sorry, the TWDA has moved to www.vekn.fr/decks/twd.htm
Prince of Paris, France
Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
> Ankha wrote:
> Sorry, the TWDA has moved to www.vekn.fr/decks/twd.htm
>
Ah, that explains it. Thanks. I do hope, however, that the address isn't going to change much more. My clan breakdown of TWDA includes links to 1716 decks (2008 to the present), all of which are now broken. I'll start updating them, but I do hope that the present address is permanent.
Edit: Actually it was surprisingly easy to fix. Crisis averted. Thanks!
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I also host a google doc which separates the TWDA into clans . That means I track how often clans win, which crypt groups get used, and how many people attend events. You can access all of that info here:
Regarding TWDA site, what ever happened to the option of being able to search by Clans?
Is there any plans to bring that back.
Me and many players in our local group found it very useful in getting some inspiration when wanting to make a deck from a clan that we had little experience with, or needed inspiration from.
Cheers
> Maddog wrote:
> Regarding TWDA site, what ever happened to the option of being able to search by Clans?
> Is there any plans to bring that back.
>
> Me and many players in our local group found it very useful in getting some inspiration when wanting to make a deck from a clan that we had little experience with, or needed inspiration from.
>
> Cheers
>
That could be done. The most difficult part is definining when a deck belongs to a clan, or another.
Prince of Paris, France
Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
> Ankha wrote:
>
> > Maddog wrote:
> > Regarding TWDA site, what ever happened to the option of being able to search by Clans?
> > Is there any plans to bring that back.
> >
> > Me and many players in our local group found it very useful in getting some inspiration when wanting to make a deck from a clan that we had little experience with, or needed inspiration from.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> That could be done. The most difficult part is definining when a deck belongs to a clan, or another.
>
Lasombra Jeff's method was far from perfect, but it worked well enough.
> Maddog wrote:
> Me and many players in our local group found it very useful in getting some inspiration when wanting to make a deck from a clan that we had little experience with, or needed inspiration from.
>
Stop making clan decks, it's bad carma!
NC Russia
> elotar wrote:
>
> > Maddog wrote:
> > Me and many players in our local group found it very useful in getting some inspiration when wanting to make a deck from a clan that we had little experience with, or needed inspiration from.
> >
> Stop making clan decks, it's bad carma!
>
You mean bad Karma or bad Carna?
If its the latter I agree. She's better with at least half Tremere Antitribu.
"That could be done. The most difficult part is definining when a deck belongs to a clan, or another"
That's a good point. Maybe if it the criteria uses the storyline event rules regarding crypt-
being at least 75% (e.g. 9 out of 12). I think (not 100% sure through) The Lasombra dude used that on his clan listing criteria.
> Maddog wrote:
> Regarding TWDA site, what ever happened to the option of being able to search by Clans?
> Is there any plans to bring that back.
>
While the TWDA archive isn't currently separated by clan, I've created a google document that does (although I've only gone through decks 2008 to the present). It also includes a fair amount of useful statistics like which crypt groupings are the most popular, how many people attended each event (and how many attend all events in a single year), things like that. It always provides a link back to the deck, so you can just find the clan you are most interested in, and click on decks to be taken to their entry in TWDA. You can get access to that google doc here . I try to publicize it in my sig, but I think a lot of people don't know that it exists.
Oh, and the definition I used (shamelessly stolen from ICL) is that the crypt must be comprised of >50% one clan, and it must have at least 2 crypt cards from that clan. It's not a perfect definition, but seems to work pretty well.
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I also host a google doc which separates the TWDA into clans . That means I track how often clans win, which crypt groups get used, and how many people attend events. You can access all of that info here:
> brettscho wrote:
> Oh, and the definition I used (shamelessly stolen from ICL) is that the crypt must be comprised of >50% one clan, and it must have at least 2 crypt cards from that clan. It's not a perfect definition, but seems to work pretty well.
>
Yeah, seems decent. It covers the distinction between a "clan deck" and a "star player deck". It also accounts for Anarch decks that use Anarch Converts such that they're not considered Caitiff decks (unless other Caitiff are used). Tupdog decks wouldn't be considered Gargoyle decks in this scheme.
A question to consider is how people use the TWDA-by-clan. Are they mainly looking for "clan decks" or are they looking for "something I can do with this clan"? If it's the former, then the ICL-brettscho approach would be preferable. If it's the latter, Lasombra Jeff's approach would be preferable.
For the league of Paris, we have the following rule:
- if a clan has more copies that any other clan, it's considered to be of that clan
- if there's a tie, we consider the clan of the "star" vampire, that is a vampire who has more copies than any other
- if there's again a tie, we consider the clan of the vampire with the highest capacity
- if there's still a tie, well, it's random.
So:
- a Tupdog deck would be considered to be a Gargoyle deck (after, you'll play mainly with them).
- a deck wih plenty of Anarch Converts could erroneously be considered to be Caitiff (Caitiff is a clan for that matter).
- a turbo baron deck would be considered to be Giovanni (assuming you play more Giovannis than any other clan)
That's the limits. Otherwise, this system works fine too.
Prince of Paris, France
Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director