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EC Day1 Final - Verbatim

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Pascal Bertrand

I will probably update this post to make it more readable. ====== 1 Danilo -- Justicar/IC OBF/PRE 4-5 2 Selen -- weenie dem 3 Erik -- Xendil bleed (with plenty VEKN cards !) 4 Selim -- Stanislava dom 5 Jorge -- weenie ANI rush/intercept. Jorge Jorge > Selim Jorge > Erik > Selim Jorge > Erik > Selim > Selen Jorge > Erik > Selim > Danilo > Selen Turn 1 Jorge influence 1 discard TAste of Vitae Erik Influence 2 : Leo Washington out Discard Wwef Selim Coven Influence 3 Danilo Info Highway Influence 6 Discard Zillah's VAlley Selen Influence 1 + 3 : Eddie Gains + Marta Turn 2 Jorge Influence 4 : Yuri Erik Giant's Blood on Leo Leo: Marked Territory Leo: Camera Phone Tap Coven to give Leo 2 blood (drains off) Influence 4 Discard Blur Selim Influence 4 Discard Giant's Blood Danilo Zillah's Valley (on other) Influence 4 (on 6) and 2 (on 4) : Unmada Discard Giant's Blood Discard Elder Impersonation Selen Dementation on Maria Marta KS sup against Jorge. Yuri attempts to block. Sup Confusion. No block. 3 Influence2 : Cassandra Turn 3 Jorge Blood Doll on Yuri, use it. Yuri Deep Song on Marta: Aid from Bats, press to continue, close range, hands *2. Eddie goes to torpor. Tap Coven to give 2 blood to Yuri Influence 3 + 1 : Stick Discard Deep Song Erik Leo bleed with Camera Phone. Yuri plays On the Qui Vive. No blocks. Influence 3+1: Xendil Selim Influence 4: Stanislava Discard Abactor Danilo Villein 8 on Unmada Talks about Kine 2 (Selen) / 2 (Selim) Erik is OK. Unmada KRC, no blocks. 2/2. Danilo has 4 votes in favour, Selim has 4 against. Xendil casts ballots in favour, Jorge says blblblblblb (spelling?) Ifnluence 5+1 (Lutz) Discard Into Thin Air Selen Dementation on Cassadra Coven to give Marta 2(1) blood Marta sup KS on Jorge, Stick attempts to block, sup Confusion, no block. Cassandra plays sup KS against Jorge, Stick attempts to block, Deny, no block, Eyes of Chaos. Influence 4: Apache Jones Discard Dementation Turn 4 Jorge Retro blood doll Stick equips with Ivory Bow. No blocks. Yuri Deep Song Apache Jones. Apache Jones blocks. Carrion Crows. Terror Frenzy sup'. Aid from Bats. Press to continue, Taste. Close range, punches x2. Apache goes to torpor. Erik Xendil Charmer: Shadow of the beast, sup. No blocks. Instantaneous Transformation to untap. Xendil equips with .44 Magnum No blocks. Leo bleeds for 2 (camera phone). No blocks. Influence 4 Sinner-G Discard Swallowed by the Night. Selim "What do you think about Ancient Influence?" Danilo "I love you!" Stanislava Ancient Influence. Beast Meld. No blocks. Stanislava, Lutz, Unmada in favour, Xendil against. Xendil, Stanislava, Lutz, Cassandra and Yuri are chosen. Instantaneous Transformation to untap. Stanislava sup Govern. No blocks. Influence 4 (on 3). Danilo Zillah's Valley (on 1) Unmada bleeds for 1. No blocks. Tap Coven to give Unmada 2 blood Influence 4 (on 5) +2 : Dmitra Ilyanova Discard Swallowed by the Night Selen Jorge "Before you bleed me, I have 2 rushes, so if you bleed me, I will rush you twice. No point for me nor for you." Marta rescue Apache (she pays) No blocks. Apache hunts. No blocks. Cassandra plays sup KS on Danilo. No blocks. Turn 5 Jorge Channel 10 Retro blood doll Yuri hunt. Influence 1 +1 Discard Deep Song Erik Xendil equips with Sport Bike. No blocks. Instantaneous Transformation Leo bleeds for 2 with Camera Phone. No blocks. Sinner-G employs Tasha Morgan. No blocks. Erik, Jorge (and a bit Selen) discuss what Selen should do on next turn. Xendil plays Under Siege. No blocks. Influence 1 Discard Blood Doll Selim Tap Coven to give Stanislava 2 blood. Villein for 5 on Stanislava. Monastery of Shadows Stanislava plays superior Govern (on 7). Xendil burns 1 counter from Under Siege and attempts to block. Block is successful. Xendil maneuvers with Shadow of the Beast. Stanislava plays superior Form of Mist, Erik plays superior Earth Meld. Erik attempts to block, Monastery of Shadows for stealth. No block. Influence : Xaviar advance is out Discard Zillah's Valley Danilo Danilo and Erik discuss about Banishment on Xaviar. "What will be your next vote? I want no parity shift pompompom" "No, there is no pompompom" "Ok, Parity Shift on your predator!" "Banishment and Parity Shift on predator? No! - It's Banishment (Lutz), Parity Shift (Unmada), and personal vote (Dmitra)". Selen : "That's very close to ousting me". Erik : "I'm going to need pool from that Parity Shift - 3." Jorge "I have 1 vote, I need the pool." Danilo : "3 for me, 2 for you "Jorge"). Jorge: "What about afterwards?" Danilo "I'm ok about you getting pool". Unmada: Parity Shift "It's going to be 5 from Selen, 3 for me, 2 for Jorge". No blocks. "Those were the terms." Danilo 11 votes in favour, Jorge 1 vote in favour, Selim 7 votes against, Erik 1 ballot against. Erik burns the edge, Selim discards Reins of Power. Referendum fails. Lutz calls Banishment on Apache Jones. 12 in favour, 10 against. Vter Captivation for 2. Dmitra calls her special ability. No blocks. 1 for Yuri, 3 for Unmada. 12 in favour, 10 against. Discard Zillah's Valley, Zillah's Valley. Selen Marta plays superior KS against Danilo. No blocks. Eyes of Chaos. Cassandra sup KS against Danilo. No block. Eyes of Chaos. Influence 4 (on 1) : Apache Jones. Discard Dementation Turn 7 Jorge Blood Doll on Stick. Transfer blood from Stick and from Yuri to pool. "Hm, where should I rush?" Stick plays Deep song on Apache Jones. No blocks, Ivory Bow vs hands. Apache goes to torpor. Yuri plays Deep Song against Marta. No block. Carrion Crows. Aid from Bats. Marta goes to torpor. Influence 4 (on 1) Petra Discard Carrion Crows. Erik Dreams of the Sphinx. Tap Dreams for cards. Sinner-G equips with Camera Phone. No blocks. Sinner-G untaps. Sinner-G bleeds for 3 (Camera Phone). Xaviar attempts to block. Erik (to Danilo) : "Stealth or no stealth?" Danilo "For me, nothing changed...". Instantaneous Transformation for stealth. No block. Selim burns 3. Leo Washington bleeds for 2 with Camera Phone. Xaviar Attempts to block. Instantaneous Transformation for stealth. No block. Selim burns 2. Influence 4 (on 2) : Morrow. Tap Coven to give Xendil 2 (1) blood. Discard Lost in Crowds. Discards down Leverage, Twisted Forest Selim Looking at Danilo's ash heap. "Will I fall into your trap? I guess I have to try.." Stanislava inferior Govern. Danilo: no blocks. Bleed for 5. Danilo is ousted. Enkil Cog. Untap Stanislava with Instantaneous Transformation. Selen "May I ask for a rescue?" Erik "Oh, I forgot about this..." Jorge: "I want a 1v1 against Stanislava". Erik "Rather than me?" Jorge: "Yes, I am last seed...". Erik "But Selim is going to kill you with a vote, when Selen is on 2 pool." Jorge "Maybe...". Xaviar: Bleed for 1. No block. Influence 4 Discard Earth Control Selen "Would you rescue me, Erik, on your turn?" Erik: "Maybe. I need to know what Yuri will do." Cassandra superior KS against Jorge. Petra attempts to block. Superior Confusion. No block. Stanislava bleeds for 4 with Enkil Cog. No blocks. Untaps with Instantaneous Transformation. Discard Eyes of Chaos (?) Turn 8 Jorge Powerbase: Montreal - Selen plays Wash. Jorge "Would you be ok with Diablerie?" Selim: "OK". Double blood doll. Tap Coven (no blood gained) Yuri diablerizes Apache Jones. Selim votes againts the blood hunt. Stick plays sueprior Deep Song on Cassandra. No blocks. Carrion Crows, Aid from Bats, Taste of vitae. Cassandra goes to torpor. Petra plays Heart of Nizchetus, no block. Influence 4 (Effie) Discard Forced Awakening. Erik Tap Dreams for cards. Pentex on Stanislava Sinner G bleeeds for 3 (Camera Phone). No blocks. Stanislava plays superior Deflection to Selen. No blocks. Morrow plays Marked Territory, no blocks. Xendil rescues Marta, no blocks. Leo bleeds for 2, no blocks. To Selen : "If you survive, and kill your prey, I want you to not bleed me." "OK". Morrow rescues Cassandra. No block. Discard The Rack. Discard down Smiling Jack, On the Qui Vive. Selim "I have a vote in hand, if I fail, I might die on this.." Zillah's Valley (on 4). Xaviar plays Parity Shift. Xendil attempts to block. Xaviar plays Earth Control. No blocks. Terms are: Selen loses 4, discussions about how much Jorge should gain. Jorge gets 2, Selim gets 2. Selim has 8 in favour, Jorge has 1 in favour, Xendil casts a ballot against. Referendum passes. Xaviar tries to remove the pentex. Xaviar attempts to block. Rapid Change for stealth. Monastery of Shadows for stealth. Burn a token from Under Siege for +1 intercept. Action is blocked. Xendil maneuvers with Shadow of the Beast. Strikes: Earth Meld x2. Jorge: "I will try to burn the pentex". Xaviar bleeds for 1. Inlfuence 2 back. Erik makes a chicken sound. Discard On the Qui Vive. Selen Taps Coven to give Marta 2 blood. Cassandra hunts. No blocks. Marta plays sup KS against Jorge. Stick plays Forced Awakening and attempts to block. Confusion. Channel 10. Deny, Mind Tricks. Cats Guidance. Stick blocks. Carrion Crows, Aid from Bats, Taste of Vitae. Marta goes to torpor. Discards Confusion. Turn 9 Jorge Discussion from Erik about Selim trying to oust Jorge. Jorge : "Some people have honour. I'm not French, I'm spanish". Stick tries to break the Pentex, no block. Stick plays Raven Spy. No blocks. Effie bleeds for 1. No block. Jorge passes impulse. Stanislava bleeds for 4 with ENkil Cog. No blocks. Selen is ousted. Instantaneous Transformation to untap. Discard Aid from Bats. Erik Tap Dreams (and burn) for cards. Blood Doll on Xendil (and uses it). Sinner G bleeds for 3. Selim: "If I bounce it, can you do something?" Jorge: "It's not the right action, maybe the next one." Stanislava tries to block. Block is successful. Sinner-G plays Disguised Weapon + .44 Magnum. Maneuver with Magnum, superior Earth Meld from Stanislava. Xendil bleeds for 1, no block. Morrow bleeds for 1. No block. Discard Uncoiling. Discard down Forced Awakening, Abbot. Selim Villein for 4 on Xaviar. Information Highway. Tap Coven to give 2 blood to Stanislava. Influence 4 (on 5) : Ingrid Rossler Discard Parity Shift Turn 10 Jorge Retro Blood Dolls (Stick, Yuri). Stick bleeds for 1. Xendil plays On the QUi Vive, blocks. Maneuvers with Shadow of the Beast. Ivory Bow, Earth Meld. Yuri employs a Raven Spy. No blocks. Effie employs a raven spy. No blocks. Discard Carrion Crows. Erik Villein for 2 on Sinner-G. Villein for 2 on Morrow. Sinner-G bleeds for 3. Selim: "How about I deflect?" "Ok for me". Ingrid Rossler plays Deflection. Petra attemps to block. Successful. Pertra plays Carrion Crows, Aid from Bats. Sinner-G strikes with .44. Petra presses to continue. Petra plays Aid from Bats. Tap Coven to give SInner G 2 blood. Sinner-G dodges with Form of Mist. Petra presses to continue. Close range, hands x2. Sinner-G goes to torpor. Petra plays Cats Guidance "Miaww". Xendil attempts to rescue Sinner-G. No blocks. Morrow employs JS Simmons. No blocks. Discard Mr Winthrop Selim Villein for 4 on Ingrid Rossler Xaviar equips with Seal of Veddartha. Xendil plays On the Qui VIve, and attempts to block. Monastery of Shadows for stealth, Under Siege for intercept. ACtion is blocked, Xaviar plays Sup' Form of Mist and continues the action. Action is not blocked. Influence 2 Discard Villein. Turn 11 Jorge Tap Coven to give Petra 2 blood. Stick bleeds for 1. No block. Petra bleeds for 1. Morrow plays On the Qui Vive and attempts to block. Petra plays Carrion Crows. No maneuvers. Punch, Morrow plays superior Form of Mist. Yuri bleeds with Deep Song, no block. Discard Raven Spy. Erik Take 1 from Xendil (Blood Doll). Sinner-G hunts; Effie attempts to block. Sinner-G plays superior Faceless Night. No blocks. Morrow equips with Ivory Bow. Yuri plays Forced Awakening, blocks. Carrion Crows, Aid from Bats. Morrow plays Form of Mist superior, Jorge plays Dark Influences. Morrow goes to torpor. Xendil plays Marked Territory. No blocks. Xendil plays Camera Phone. Stick plays On the Qui Vive, uses Channel 10. Blocks. Xendil maneuvers with Shadow of the Beast. Strike: .44 magnum vs Ivory Bow.Xendil goes to torpor. Leo rescues Xendil, he pays 2. No blocks. Discard Marked Territory. Selim Dreams of the Sphinx. Stanislava plays superior Govern. No blocks. Tap the Coven to give Stanislava 2 blood. Influence 5 (on 5) : Genevieve. Turn 12 Jorge Move 1 blood to Stick. Stick bleeds for 1. No blocks. Petra bleeds for 1. No blocks. Erik Tap Coven to give Leo 2 blood. Sinner-G bleeds for 3. Genevieve attempts to block, successfully. Maneuvers with Magnum, Genevieve Earth melds. Leo Washington bleeds for 2 with Camera phone, no blocks. Discard Pack Tactics. Selim Villein for 6 on Genevieve Xaviar hunts. No blocks. Ingrid hunts. No blocks. Genevieve hunts. No blocks. Pays 1 to see 1. Turn 13 Jorge Retro from Yuri, Stick. Tap Coven to give Stick 2 blood. Pentex Subversion on Xendil Charmer. Stick bleeds for 1. No block. Petra bleeds for 1. Sinner-G plays Eluding the arms of Morpheus and blocks. Petra plays Carrion Crows and Aid from Bats. Sinner-G plays Earth Meld. Effie bleeds for 1. No block. Yuri bleeds for 1. No block. Erik is ousted. Selim Villein for 3 on Genevieve. TOGP on Yuri. Selim: 2. Jorge: 3. Selim: 4. OK. Ingrid Rossler plays Govern the Unaligned. Effie plays Forced Awakening and attempts to block. Monastery of Shadows for stealth. Effie blocks. Effie plays Carrion Crows + Aid from Bats. Ingrid plays Form of Mist superior. Murmur of the False will for +1 bleed. No block. Xaviar bleeds for 2. Effie plays On the Qui Vive. Xaviar plays Earth Control. Channel 10 for intercept. Tap Dreams for cards. Effie blocks. Effie plays Aid from Bats (maneuver). Tap the Coven to give Xaviar 2 blood. No press. Stanislava bleeds for 4. Effie plays Forced Awakenging and attemps to block. Superior Earth Control for stealth. Murmur of the False Will to increase the bleed. Jorge is ousted. Selim wins. Selim 4 GW Jorge 1

Lech

A lot of stupid plays by Jorge. Are he Selim's fiend or something? Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

Lemminkäinen

> Lech wrote: > A lot of stupid plays by Jorge. Are he Selim's fiend or something? > Harsh!

Lech

But true. Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

cordovader

> Lech wrote: > A lot of stupid plays by Jorge. Are he Selim's fiend or something? > It's easy to judge when you're not playing. Maybe you can enlighten me with your wisdom to do better next time? Or maybe you can make it to the finals next year and show us how it is done, i guess we all could learn from you. And yes, we're friends, but that wouldn't have changed my choices if it wasn't the case. I did a couple of mistakes towards the end. I was tired, i have fever, a big headache and it was clear since Danilo's oust that my chances of winning that game were lower than 1%. Enjoy your wannabe troll sunday!

Ke.

It seems TOGP didn't result in the win — but so easily could have. That card must go. Amaranth Deck Building Tool : VTES NZ : VTES ANZ Facebook

brettscho

Pascal - this was a fantastic report for the finals. Very glad to see reports like this getting posted. They certainly generate buzz and excitement about the game. I know how much work goes into them, and I appreciate you putting that in. Thanks again! > Lech wrote: > A lot of stupid plays by Jorge. Are he Selim's fiend or something? > And this is one of the reasons why more reports are written and posted. Given the state of our game, we all need to do what we can to keep it alive and support those few players who remain. Your statement does neither, and should have been kept to yourself. Check out my VTES blog: Gaming with BS I also host a google doc which separates the TWDA into clans . That means I track how often clans win, which crypt groups get used, and how many people attend events. You can access all of that info here:

Dorrinal

> Pascal wrote: > Turn 2 > ... > Erik > Giant's Blood on Leo > > Selim > Discard Giant's Blood > > Danilo > Discard Giant's Blood > HAHAHAHAHAHA

Zenedar

Hahah yes my first turn master on one of the day2 tables was to play Giant's Blood on Marcin's anarch convert. Very funny! This was my first international final table and it was really fun and really frustrating at the same time. Jorge didn't play badly at all I think. Just take a look at the seating he got. What a nightmare for his deck. /Erik

Ashur

Was it really smart to deal for a heads up against Stanislava instead of a heads up with a !Gangrel toolbox? I mean, a deck with 4 bigcap Gangrel, lots of pool, lots of stealth, s:ce and vote lock? I just don´t get that deal. Did the Stanislava deck threaten to oust you/let you be ousted? "My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."

Pascal Bertrand

If Jorge ends up in a duel with the !Gangrel deck, someone else than him has 2 vps. The best he can get in that duel is 2vps. Since he's 5th seed, that means he doesn't win the final, even if he ouata the !Gangrel in the duel. So Jorge, in order to win the final, needs 3VPs. The only way to do that (because there was no way Selim wasn't ousting Selen) was to win a duel against Selim. So, fromy point of view, since Danilo was already out and Selen was about to get ousted, it was the smartest move to do everything Jorge could do not to let Erik get a VP.

Ashur

> Pascal wrote: > If Jorge ends up in a duel with the !Gangrel deck, someone else than him has 2 vps. The best he can get in that duel is 2vps. Since he's 5th seed, that means he doesn't win the final, even if he ouata the !Gangrel in the duel. > So Jorge, in order to win the final, needs 3VPs. The only way to do that (because there was no way Selim wasn't ousting Selen) was to win a duel against Selim. > So, fromy point of view, since Danilo was already out and Selen was about to get ousted, it was the smartest move to do everything Jorge could do not to let Erik get a VP. > Ah, that´s right, stupid of me. But ok, one more thing: Wouldn´t it be in Jorges interest that Selim is as weak as possible, when they enter the heads up? I saw Selim asking Jorge to take bounced bleeds and helping Selim in other ways. (Sorry, just trying to learn something here!) "My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."

Ankha

> Ashur wrote: > > > Pascal wrote: > > If Jorge ends up in a duel with the !Gangrel deck, someone else than him has 2 vps. The best he can get in that duel is 2vps. Since he's 5th seed, that means he doesn't win the final, even if he ouata the !Gangrel in the duel. > > So Jorge, in order to win the final, needs 3VPs. The only way to do that (because there was no way Selim wasn't ousting Selen) was to win a duel against Selim. > > So, fromy point of view, since Danilo was already out and Selen was about to get ousted, it was the smartest move to do everything Jorge could do not to let Erik get a VP. > > > Ah, that´s right, stupid of me. But ok, one more thing: Wouldn´t it be in Jorges interest that Selim is as weak as possible, when they enter the heads up? I saw Selim asking Jorge to take bounced bleeds and helping Selim in other ways. (Sorry, just trying to learn something here!) > Probably in an ideal world. But not helping Selim on that bounce for instance could jeopardize the fact that Jorge and Selim enters a duel. The longer the game stays stalled, the more likely something wrong can happen (someone gets ousted / someone gets rushed etc.), and the more likely the game is going to time out. The game lasts only two hours, so you can't wait forever that the situation gets better. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Ashur

> Ankha wrote: > Probably in an ideal world. > Which reminds me of something someone (Enrico?) actually said in my last game at day 2: "Yes, in an ideal world. But this is the World of Darkness!" OK. I just didn´t think Selim ever was in serious danger, but maybe he was. "My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."

cordovader

> Zenedar wrote: > Hahah yes my first turn master on one of the day2 tables was to play Giant's Blood on Marcin's anarch convert. Very funny! > > This was my first international final table and it was really fun and really frustrating at the same time. > > Jorge didn't play badly at all I think. Just take a look at the seating he got. What a nightmare for his deck. > > /Erik > I think I didn't play bad at the beginninng of the final table, but like 30 min towards the end I fealt too tired and sick to think clearly and I forgot to take blood from Blood Dolls, play master cards etc. Anyway, I think it wouldn't have changed the score. It was a really hard final table for me. I was even thinking if I could have get a better deal with Selim, but even if I had dealt him not bringing more vampires out till the heads up, he could have just played govern sup and brought them out as soon as I ousted you. In the end it was a balance between trying to prepare for the duel and ousting you, but given that I had only 4 vampires and I knew Selim was going to play ToGP, I was simply screwed. Anyway, as you could see I always kept defense (vampires untapped, wakes and Delaying Tactics in hand), just in case Selim wished to break the deal. Basicly the final table was decided since the moment Selen chose her seating, since she didn't know what the rest of the finalists were playing. If she had seated as predator of Selim, the results would have been very different. I had lots of fun playing with Erik, someone I didn't knew before the EC and I played two tables with him (round 2 plus finals). I hope we meet in the future. PD : I really liked your Yolo Swag deck.

thelonius reloaded

I think a quote from Selen around turn 5 is missing... something like "if I can't make my vp [on jorge] I will back oust you [Danilo]", which she actually did Anyway, great report! Lurking in the underground of Bologna, Italy

Lönkka

> Ashur wrote: > > > Ankha wrote: > > Probably in an ideal world. > > > Which reminds me of something someone (Enrico?) actually said in my last game at day 2: "Yes, in an ideal world. But this is the World of Darkness!" > Which is one of the reasons why it so so much fun playing with Enrico! Always ready with some fun comments. Finnish Politics!