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Hunt Actions

10 messages from 5 participants · 17 August 2015 – 20 August 2015 · vekn.net/forum
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Kushiel

I noticed that the phrase "hunt action" doesn't appear anywhere in the rulebook. I assume that any effect that modifies a hunt in some way can also be applied to any card with that keyphrase on it, but I also thought that I'd better check to make sure that this is true. (And bring this up as a possible addition to the rulebook to avoid future questions.) So, for example, I can: 1) Tap Sunset Strip during an Earth-Feeder action to get +1 stealth on that action, for a total of +3? 2) Gain two blood by successfully resolving Loki's Gift with a Sabbat vampire with Hungry Coyote in play? 3) Gain seven blood by having an anarch successfully perform Abactor while tapping both Hospital Food and Anarch Free Press?

Jrandom

I have been currently messing around with buffing hunting and I believe that you are correct. They would apply. You forget to include the Unlicensed Taxicab and Aaron's Feeding Razor in your list. My question is with regards to Igo the Hungry, who doesn't get the "usual" +1 stealth when hunting, so he doesn't get stealth for the basic hunt action, but would he that penalty apply to Loki's Gift? I would assume not, since that isn't "usual hunting".

Kushiel

> Jrandom wrote: > I have been currently messing around with buffing hunting and I believe that you are correct. They would apply. You forget to include the Unlicensed Taxicab and Aaron's Feeding Razor in your list. > Yeah, it was just a few examples. Not meant to be an exhaustive list.

ReverendRevolver

All true stuff. "The usual" is the inherent for the cardless action. He can abactor, lokis gift, and whatever with stealth per card text. "Gets -1 stealth on hunt actions" would void the stealth on cards. Ariadne is my favorite hunt- buffer. Also, she gets abombwe, eats people, and takes thier skin to bleed 2 times a turn if you draw enough freak drives..... So, yes to hospital food, press, hungry coyote, razor, ariadne, strip, taxicab, ravager, guruhi are the land, etc during earth feeder, abactor, lokis gift (obviously at PRO target still burns one regardless of what you gain), ghost eater, vultures buffet, week of nightmares/restricted vitae hunts (same as lokis at superior, target burns one, you gain modified amount). Obviously, perfectionist also stacks, but now its getting excessive.

Pascal Bertrand

> Jrandom wrote: > My question is with regards to Igo the Hungry, who doesn't get the "usual" +1 stealth when hunting, so he doesn't get stealth for the basic hunt action, but would he that penalty apply to Loki's Gift? I would assume not, since that isn't "usual hunting". > Correct.

Pascal Bertrand

> Kushiel wrote: > I noticed that the phrase "hunt action" doesn't appear anywhere in the rulebook. I assume that any effect that modifies a hunt in some way can also be applied to any card with that keyphrase on it, but I also thought that I'd better check to make sure that this is true. (And bring this up as a possible addition to the rulebook to avoid future questions.) > > So, for example, I can: > > 1) Tap Sunset Strip during an Earth-Feeder action to get +1 stealth on that action, for a total of +3? > 2) Gain two blood by successfully resolving Loki's Gift with a Sabbat vampire with Hungry Coyote in play? > 3) Gain seven blood by having an anarch successfully perform Abactor while tapping both Hospital Food and Anarch Free Press? > Yes to all.

Pascal Bertrand

While you're at it, there's a big thing to notice : when a card reads "Hunt action. Gain 1 blood", the blood is taken from the blood bank (obviously). When a card reads "Hunt. Steal 1 blood from a vampire", the blood is taken from the vampire. Now, some cards read "gains an extra blood", "gains 1 additional blood", ... For these cards, the blood is taken, if nothing is written, from the same source (bank, other ravnos when Week of Nightmares is in play, ...)

Kushiel

> Pascal wrote: > While you're at it, there's a big thing to notice : when a card reads "Hunt action. Gain 1 blood", the blood is taken from the blood bank (obviously). > When a card reads "Hunt. Steal 1 blood from a vampire", the blood is taken from the vampire. > > Now, some cards read "gains an extra blood", "gains 1 additional blood", ... For these cards, the blood is taken, if nothing is written, from the same source (bank, other ravnos when Week of Nightmares is in play, ...) > True. There are numerous Usenet posts and rulings to this effect. With regard to "hunt action," though, I couldn't find anything to clarify what the keyphrase denotes, nor any specific rulings related to it. (It's possible that they exist and I failed to find them, but I did try to do due diligence to find them before posting here.)

jamesatzephyr

> Kushiel wrote: > With regard to "hunt action," though, I couldn't find anything to clarify what the keyphrase denotes > It's an action in which you hunt, and so allows you to use it when you need to hunt, and triggers other card text about things that happen (or can happen) when you hunt. Similarly, Anonymous Freight is an equip action, and facilitates other card text that happens when you equip - so, for example, Helictoper would be tapped. ("When a minion equips with the Helicopter, tap it. ") This is as opposed to just being a generic "Move this card to this dude" effect, like Summon History.

Pascal Bertrand

> Kushiel wrote: > With regard to "hunt action," though, I couldn't find anything to clarify what the keyphrase denotes, nor any specific rulings related to it. (It's possible that they exist and I failed to find them, but I did try to do due diligence to find them before posting here.) > A "hunt action" is an action to "hunt". The rest is in the Rulebook under 6.1.2 Hunt.