WHY DOES PACK TACTICS EXIST?
Elder Intervention
[Reaction] Reaction
[1 Blood]
Do not replace until after this action.
Only usable during a bleed against you. This vampire gets +2 intercept. A vampire cannot play both Pack Tactics and Elder Intervention in the same action.
Artist(s): Michael Weaver; Melissa Uran
Set(s): VTES:C, CE:C, Anarchs:PG2, HttB:PSam2
Pack Tactics
[Reaction] Reaction
[1 Blood]
Do not replace until after this action.
Only usable during a bleed against you. This reacting vampire gets +2 intercept. A vampire cannot play both Pack Tactics and Elder Intervention during the same action.
Artist(s): Patrick Kochakji
Set(s): Sabbat:C, SW:C, Anarchs:PAG, BH:PN2
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Elder Intervention has been printed first in the VTES set.
Pack Tactics was printed later in the Sabbat set.
I suppose that were was some printing strategy at that time inspired from Magic: The Gathering were you could find the same card under a different name.
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Anarhist uprising and Ancilla enpowernment olso, from the top of my hand.
The logic was theme of the set, somebody desided that you can't have "elder"/"ancilla" cards in sabbat set.
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> elotar wrote:
> The logic was theme of the set, somebody desided that you can't have "elder"/"ancilla" cards in sabbat set.
>
Most likely that, and the fact that Sabbat was intended to be playable as a standalone set / base set. (The word "stand-alone" appears on the booster wrappers.) Note that Elder Intervention had been added in V:TES - it wasn't in Jyhad - as one of the tools to let you withstand stealth-bleed, along with Protected Resources, Archon Investigation, and Justicar Retribution. Presumably it was felt that the effect of Elder Intervention was something the Sabbat needed, but wanted something more thematic for the Sabbat.
Along similar lines, Meat Cleaver turns up in Sabbat, but is the same card as Bastard Sword - same cost, same effect. It doesn't need a specific non-stacking clause like Elder Intervention has, because weapons don't stack in the same way that reactions can (e.g. you can only use one weapon per strike, even if you have 10 Bastard Swords equipped). However, a Meat Cleaver probably seems more in-theme for a more brutal, gruesome sect like the Sabbat.
Why is there vanilla and chocolate ice cream! They are both iced creamy confections, there is no need for both!
Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.
> direwolf wrote:
> Why is there vanilla and chocolate ice cream! They are both iced creamy confections, there is no need for both!
>
Gawdammit, I've been waiting a whole day for someone to make a joke about neopolitan ice cream and anarch three-way cards(here in America, neopolitan = a tub of ice cream that is one third each vanilla, chocolate and strawberry flavor ice cream)
Dammit, I am lame.
Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.
I play both in case one gets DI'd or DI2'd.
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
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> brandonsantacruz wrote:
> I play both in case one gets DI'd or DI2'd.
>
Unfortunately this dos not work because of the can not play text: "A vampire cannot play both Pack Tactics and Elder Intervention in the same action"
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> Ke. wrote:
>
> > brandonsantacruz wrote:
> > I play both in case one gets DI'd or DI2'd.
> >
> Unfortunately this dos not work because of the can not play text: "A vampire cannot play both Pack Tactics and Elder Intervention in the same action"
>
Oh, what a cruel world! At least I am still protected against Regarhagan's Hold.
Regarhagan's Hold
[2 Pool]
Master: out-of-turn.
Give this card to another Methuselah during his or her untap phase and move a reaction card from that Methuselah's ash heap to this card. The chosen reaction card costs that Methuselah's vampires an additional blood. That Methuselah may move 1 pool to this card as a master phase action. Burn this card when it has 2 pool counters. A Methuselah can have only 1 Regarhagan's Hold.
Artist(s): Andrew Trabbold
Set(s): Anarchs:R2
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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