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Action declaration on Magic of the Smith

9 messages from 6 participants · 15 March 2015 – 16 March 2015 · vekn.net/forum
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Nac

hi Are targets declared in Magic of the Smith? Does player have to say: I'm going to go for X" or he pick whatever equipment he want? We here thought every efect had to include targets, concrete targets, as announced, not so important on usual actions but very important on sudario/magic and such, but now I'm not sure. many thanks in advance. Magic of the Smith Library +1 stealth action. Thaumaturgy Search your library for an equipment card and equip this acting vampire with it (requirements and cost apply as normal). Shuffle afterward. Thaumaturgy As above, but this is a +3 stealth action.

a-e

Successful action lets you search equipment from library, so it won't need a target card named on announce. You may also find no equipment if you so chose. Marko, Prince of Helsinki

Pascal Bertrand

> a-e wrote: > Successful action lets you search equipment from library, so it won't need a target card named on announce. You may also find no equipment if you so chose. > Correct.

Nac

So if I play a Bum's Rush, I don't have to pick a minion until after it goes unblocked. I just have to anounce against which player it goes, as it is a direct action. Or if I play a Conceal and the target has 2 locations, I can destroy any on them. (It changes a lot how we have been playing the game, I'm kind of confused)

Juggernaut1981

Nope. For Bum's Rush you are entering combat with a minion. So you have to name the minion. Magic of the Smith requires you to basically "name your library as the target of a search" but doesn't require you to say what card you are searching for. If it instead said "Name an Equipment Card and search your library for a copy of the named card" then you would have to tell everyone the Equipment card first. Retired Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418

Nac

What about efects that target cards in ash heap: are they declared with card target or their target is the ash heap?

Ankha

> Nac wrote: > What about efects that target cards in ash heap: are they declared with card target or their target is the ash heap? > You answered your own question: if they target cards in the ash heap (eg. Sudario Refraction, Sargon Fragment...), you have to announce the target(s) when announcing the action. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Nac

Many many thanks. One last question: Do activated efectcs work in the same way as actions in terms of declaring them? (declaring targets, costs, then tapping) I was trying to find some reference to them in the rulebook but couldn't find any I'm think about ercives fragments in particular. erciyes fragments, the Unique master. Put this card in play. Tap this card to move a library card from your prey's ash heap to this card, face down. You may look at that card at any time. You may play the card from the Fragments as if playing it from your hand (requirements and cost, if any, apply as normal). When that card is burned, remove it from the game instead. Only 1 card can be on this card at a time. Any vampire with a capacity above 4 can steal the Fragments (and any card on it) for his or her controller as a action.

jamesatzephyr

> Nac wrote: > One last question: Do activated efectcs work in the same way as actions in terms of declaring them? (declaring targets, costs, then tapping) > Except for the fact that you're using a card in-play to get the effect, rather than playing it from your hand, everything else works the same. Of course: a) playing a card is itself quite a big difference, because you can play Direct Intervention on Boxed In, but can't play it on me tapping Mob Connections or Police Department, and b) a lot of the time, there's very little controversial to announce - a lot of in-play effects give you no interesting choices after you've chosen to use them. Obviously, some do have interesting things to decide and announce, though.