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Justicar Retribution XXXVII: 08.03.2015 Helsinki, Finland

12 messages from 2 participants · 17 February 2015 – 13 March 2015 · vekn.net/forum
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Lönkka

Justicar Retribution XXXVII: Run Rabbit Run Standard constructed tournament Sun 08.03.2015 11.00- 3 rounds + finals Tournament fee: 5 euros And as always, a giganormous pile of promos for each player who hasn't attended a tournament before (or did so years ago). Usage of color prints for Danse Macabre and Unaligned will be strictly enforced. Yadda, yadda, yadda... Finnish Politics!

Lönkka

Oh man, mere five players plus judge... So cahnging the tournament format on the fly to multideck 2R+F Finnish Politics!

Ankha

> Lönkka wrote: > Oh man, mere five players plus judge... > > So cahnging the tournament format on the fly to multideck 2R+F > I've updated the event accordingly. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Lönkka

Magnific, merci beaucoup! Finnish Politics!

Lönkka

Vincent, can you also please modify the format from "Standard Constructed" to "Limited Limited"? Finnish Politics!

Ankha

> Lönkka wrote: > Vincent, can you also please modify the format from "Standard Constructed" to "Limited Limited"? > Why limited? You made a draft instead? Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Lönkka

Isn't multideck Limited? I cen't be Standard Constructed, right? So should the Format be Constructed... ...and level Limited? Finnish Politics!

Ankha

Limited tournaments are described here: www.vekn.net/tournament-rules/7-limited-tournament-rules > The V:EKN sanctions the following Sealed formats: Sealed (standard) (see section 7.3) Restricted Trade (also called Michigan Draft) (see section 7.4) > The V:EKN sanctions the following Draft formats: Booster Draft (standard) (section 7.6) Table Draft (also called Rochester Draft) (section 7.7) Mixed Draft (also called Elder Draft) (section 7.8) > The 3.1.5 Multi-Deck System is compatible with a sanctioned tournament (if you're not restricting the sets for instance), if it is announced beforehand. > 3.1.5 Multi-Deck System > > Players are prohibited from making modifications to their decks between rounds unless the tournament uses the following multi-deck rules. The multi-deck system can be used at any tournament with fewer than 12 players (i.e., fewer than three tables). Organizers choosing to use this system must announce its use in advance of the tournament date. Players may choose to bring any number of tournament-legal decks to the tournament and/or extra cards to exchange with cards in their decks (also known as a sideboard in some games). Between rounds, players may freely switch decks (or cards in their decks). A tournament begun with the multi-deck system cannot admit more players between rounds if doing so would create a round with 12 or more players. > So basically, your event could have been a standard constructed, but since the multideck format wasn't announced before the tournament, it falls in the "Unsanctioned Tournament" category. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Lönkka

> Ankha wrote: > So basically, your event could have been a standard constructed, but since the multideck format wasn't announced before the tournament, it falls in the "Unsanctioned Tournament" category. > Oh, we're getting anal now...? It is a SOP here in Helsinki if we have less than qualifying people attending a tournament that we play with multideck. Just ain't fun to play three rounds in one table against a deck that trashes your deck. Each and every player that attended that tournament brought several decks with them because of this. If this is a problem I'll have to make the entries to event calendar AFTER the event from now on. Finnish Politics!

Ankha

> Lönkka wrote: > > > Ankha wrote: > > So basically, your event could have been a standard constructed, but since the multideck format wasn't announced before the tournament, it falls in the "Unsanctioned Tournament" category. > > > Oh, we're getting anal now...? > > It is a SOP here in Helsinki if we have less than qualifying people attending a tournament that we play with multideck. > > Just ain't fun to play three rounds in one table against a deck that trashes your deck. > > Each and every player that attended that tournament brought several decks with them because of this. > > If this is a problem I'll have to make the entries to event calendar AFTER the event from now on. > I'm just reading the tournament rules here. I suppose they were designed that way so that people that bring only one deck are not penalized by the last-minute change. I agree they could be improved by adding "or if all players agree on a format change the day of the tournament", but I'm not in charge of tournament rules. You should create a post in that way in the appropriate subforum (or if 'someone' reads us...) Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Lönkka

> Ankha wrote: > I'm just reading the tournament rules here. I suppose they were designed that way so that people that bring only one deck are not penalized by the last-minute change. > Like siad, it is a standard operating procedure here. So everyone brought extra decks with them to this tournament. The fact that it wasn't announced in the event calendar is irrelevant. But if people see this as a problem I can, like already said, revert in creating events in the event calendar after the event has started/been played. Thus it'll certainly match what was played. It won't advertise the event in VEKN's event calendar but then again no outsiders attend the tournaments anyways and local announcements cover the local playerbase just nicely. Finnish Politics!

Ankha

> Lönkka wrote: > > > Ankha wrote: > > I'm just reading the tournament rules here. I suppose they were designed that way so that people that bring only one deck are not penalized by the last-minute change. > > > Like siad, it is a standard operating procedure here. > So everyone brought extra decks with them to this tournament. > > The fact that it wasn't announced in the event calendar is irrelevant. > > But if people see this as a problem I can, like already said, revert in creating events in the event calendar after the event has started/been played. Thus it'll certainly match what was played. > > It won't advertise the event in VEKN's event calendar but then again no outsiders attend the tournaments anyways and local announcements cover the local playerbase just nicely. > I think you should continue as before, but that the tournament rules should be changed. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director