Name:"Amigo Baali"
Player:Josu Guinea
Event Location: San Vicente de Paúl, 10. Vitoria (Álava).01003
Players:9
Rounds: 3R+F
CRYPT(12)
4 x The Horde -3- dai ofu pre (baali gr.6)
3 x Arishat -6-DAI OFU PRE (baali gr.6)
2 x Xeper, Sultan of Lepers -7- OFU PRE dai pro ani (baali gr.6)
3 x Annazir -9- PRE DAI OFU POT (baali gr.5)
LIBRARY (66)
MASTER(14)
5 x Tend the Flock
1 x Pentex Subversion
1 x Sudden Reversal
4 x Villein
1 x Ruins of Charizel
1 x Giant´s Blood
1 x Dreams of the Sphinx
ACTIONS (5)
2 x Legal Manipulations
2 x Condemnation: Mute
1 x Unleash Hell´s Fury
EQUIP (1)
1 x Kaymakli Fragment
POLITICAL ACIONS (17)
2 x Reinforcements
6 x Kine Resources Contested
4 x Reckless Agitation
1 x Ancilla Empowerment
4 x My Kin Against the World
MODIFIERS (18)
1 x Spying Mission
2 x Bewiching Oration
4 x Voter Captivation
2 x Forgotten Labyrinth
6 x Lost in Crowds
2 x Elder Impersonation
1 x Cloack the Gathering
COMBO (7)
5 x Sense the Sin
2 x Swallowed by the Night
COMBAT (4)
2 x Majesty
1 x Staredown
1 x Conflagration
Some missing card like Veneficty.
Bye! [Smile]
I very much like the use of My Kin Against the World to get more value for your infernal penalty, or for a second (or third!) opportunity to boost bleeds from all your Hordes in a single turn.
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> Jeff wrote:
> I very much like the use of My Kin Against the World to get more value for your infernal penalty, or for a second (or third!) opportunity to boost bleeds from all your Hordes in a single turn.
>
I think it's a bad idea because 1/ it costs blood in a deck that has little blood (even with the Voter Captivation -- you don't have that much votes to make it pass by large amount) 2/ it costs a political action, and the political actions are almost the only way to cause decent damage to the prey in this deck.
I've tried it, I find it a bad idea.
Prince of Paris, France
Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
> Ankha wrote:
>
> > Jeff wrote:
> > I very much like the use of My Kin Against the World to get more value for your infernal penalty, or for a second (or third!) opportunity to boost bleeds from all your Hordes in a single turn.
> >
> I think it's a bad idea because 1/ it costs blood in a deck that has little blood (even with the Voter Captivation -- you don't have that much votes to make it pass by large amount) 2/ it costs a political action, and the political actions are almost the only way to cause decent damage to the prey in this deck.
> I've tried it, I find it a bad idea.
>
Its a build that you have to play knowing other vote decks make you lose half your plan. Condemnation mute and Arishats special arw your only standing help against good voters. So, 2 minions with votes, 2 ways to negate votes, and whatever cards you play. It can go great, but the risk is large. So, its mostly meta, I guess.
Annazir has +1 bleed and a built-in steal location or equipment special.
Xeper has a built-in steal ally special.
While neither special directly ousts, it seems they are going to frequently be worthwhile actions to take. MKAtW as multi-acting makes some kind of sense, especially with Condemnation: Mute.
When you are anvil, be patient; when a hammer, strike.
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> Jeff wrote:
> Annazir has +1 bleed and a built-in steal location or equipment special.
>
> Xeper has a built-in steal ally special.
>
> While neither special directly ousts, it seems they are going to frequently be worthwhile actions to take. MKAtW as multi-acting makes some kind of sense, especially with Condemnation: Mute.
>
Sure, multiacting is great. But using a political card that costs blood and that requires the oldest vampire to play is not a good way to achieve this, at least in this kind of deck.
Prince of Paris, France
Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
> Ankha wrote:
>
Sure, multiacting is great. But using a political card that costs blood and that requires the oldest vampire to play is not a good way to achieve this, at least in this kind of deck.[/quote]
Someone is having success with it. That's a good sign the idea merits further exploration.
When you are anvil, be patient; when a hammer, strike.
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> Jeff wrote:
> Someone is having success with it. That's a good sign the idea merits further exploration.
>
Is it?
The smaller the tournament, the higher the chance of winning it whatever the deck (because it's far easier to reach the final). It's one of the reason why the TWDA don't include tournaments with less than 10 players.
I'm not saying that the deck is bad, but I'd rather hear Josu say that MKAtW was a great addition and explain the context rather than conclude that it is good because it has won a 9-players tournament.
(An extreme example would be someone playing plenty of copies of a clanhoser and winning a tournament because his prey plays that clan. Is the clanhoser a good card because someone won one tournament with it?)
Anyway, I've given my opinion based on my numerous attempts to use that card in the exact same kind of deck.
Prince of Paris, France
Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
> Ankha wrote:
>
> > Jeff wrote:
> > Someone is having success with it. That's a good sign the idea merits further exploration.
> >
> Is it?
> The smaller the tournament, the higher the chance of winning it whatever the deck (because it's far easier to reach the final). It's one of the reason why the TWDA don't include tournaments with less than 10 players.
>
> I'm not saying that the deck is bad, but I'd rather hear Josu say that MKAtW was a great addition and explain the context rather than conclude that it is good because it has won a 9-players tournament.
>
> (An extreme example would be someone playing plenty of copies of a clanhoser and winning a tournament because his prey plays that clan. Is the clanhoser a good card because someone won one tournament with it?)
>
> Anyway, I've given my opinion based on my numerous attempts to use that card in the exact same kind of deck.
>
Ive always thought Lutz was the best fit for MkatW, but horde and late group Baali arent bad.
As far as seeing more decks with it......
I can. But, I need lent $600 in cards, and someone to clone me so I can go to work at the same time as flooding twda with a gimmick deck
Digging back into the TWDA a bit, there are actually 3 Baali decks which use MKAtW.
Maybe someone out there will find the way to take this type of deck to the larger stage. I encourage them to try. There are plenty of ideas out there that have yet to be fully explored.
When you are anvil, be patient; when a hammer, strike.
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I've been intrigued by this card for some time and have dabbled with it a bit. 2-3 copies in a Presence vote/bleed deck and what is there not to like?
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