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TWD Royal Rumble VI

12 messages from 8 participants · 08 September 2014 – 10 September 2014 · vekn.net/forum
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guilhem

Royal Rumble VI September 7, 2014 Paris 10 players 3r + final Winner : Guilhem Marrannes with 2,5 VP in the finals www.vekn.net/event-calendar/event/7813 Deck Name: MiamMiam Author: Mouk another french player for 90% a little beat modify by myself. Description: Always the same mecanic, bring malgo out first,then bring fanchon out with malgo power. Then get the card you need with fanchon special. You get easely 11 votes, but if you do not get the majority, do not hesitate to block and amaranth cross table to ansure your majority. You have pb with ally deck, but you can manage most of the combat deck, vote and SB deck. Crypt [12] 4x Mistress Fanchon (11) inner circle Tremere (group 4) 4x Sha-Ennu (11) regent Tzimisce (group 4) 4x Malgorzata (9) priscus Tremere antitribu (group 4) Library [88 cards] Combat [45] 8x Amaranth 3x Blood Rage 4x Breath of the Dragon 18x Chiropteran Marauder 5x Quick Jab 4x Thoughts Betrayed 1x Rego Motus 2x Ritual of the bitter rose Equipment [2] 1x Bowl of Convergence 1x Ivory Bow Master [14] 3x Information Highway 4x Sudden Reversal 6x Villein 1x Pentex(TM) Subversion Political Action [2] 1x Reins of Power 1x Political Stranglehold Action [3] 2x Far Mastery 1x Graverobbing Reaction [22] 5x Eagle's Sight 7x Eyes of Argus 3x On the qui vive 3x Enhanced Senses 4x Precognition Chuck Norris and Superman once fought each other on a bet. The loser had to start wearing his underwear on the outside of his pants

Hakuron

Congratulations! And I like the deck! National Coordinator Germany nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de

Asnek

i'm looking at the deck and wondering how do you intend to manage S&B? not a single bleed bounce with definitively a lot of AUS in your crypt? those few intercept card won't save your ass against seductions and/or block fails. i see no defense against SCE. 4 Thoughts betrayed that can be played by only portion of your crypt seems to be nto enough for me. first massive majesty deck will overrun you with multiact. weenie embrace deck like torries! or ravnoses that do not sit next you right away do reach you with so many minions you are just killed by numbers even with optimal condition (you going 4th/5th and having info highway in opening hand) you have 1st vamp in round 2 and 2nd in 3rd but most rather 4th round. at the same time there might 3-4 S&B minions. you might block one of them but they can pass you quite easily with one single stealth card. you can't use EoA for both intercept and untap. so you rather stay untapped and do not act or you have limited option intercept (max 4 intercept but most probably 1-2). without Mistress you pretty much do not have that bowl for permanent +1 intercept. and it's you only source of permanent intercept. what if somebody bring it out cross table? once you will contest it you are again without permanent intercept. all i can see is you being overrun while you may take one or two of his minions to torpor and maybe even amaranth them. after all you might manage to be ousted at later time with result that you predator would be such crippled after ousting you he will not get any more VPs in the game. after all i see this deck more as a type to piss someones game and die model. please tell me how it was possible for you to get this into finals. don't get me wrong i really like the idea of this deck, but i'm very surprised that such a build won a tournament, because in my view it will have problem to score at least one VP. assholepopulation.com/ Did u saw one today?

Ankha

My guess: bring out Malgorzata. Villein her for a lot if your predator is a stealth-bleed. Use Malgorzata to bring out Fanchon quicker and for 4 less pool. Grab Bowl of Convergence and equip Malgorzata with it. Now you have 10 wake cards to resist. You can even use Malgorzata once more if you call a new vampire. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

TapeTaChatte

anyway, it is perfectly alright to play a deck that does not handle very agressive decks and let other players do it for them. 95% of the decks of the TWD cannot handle a S/B or a weenie breed by myself anyway. IC Organized play coordinator Please contact me with any OP query using the mail in my profile

BenPeal

YMMV (Your Metagame May Vary)

guilhem

Hello, Firt sorry for my english but i will try to give some answer to Asnek. 1) It was a 10 player tournement. Evry Body could win a 10 player tournement with any decks if he get a little luke. 2) The royal rumble is usely a warzone tournement, and it was also the case this year. There was no S&B or swarm deck and only one multi action vote&bleed deck. But want could realy do a multi action when you over vote him and amaranth the rigth guy to get back the majority when you lose it. The original deck who inspired me is ont he french forum: veknfrance.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17637 As you could see he had 7 bounds to protecte him from S&B. The real force of the deck is that you eat the vamp. That means you dont have to take care of it anymore. You can do fat villein and eat the big guy around you but you have to select your target. Fanchon power is very strong to bring you the card you need to get the target you want. I made it for the tournement and never play it before. I would now change some stuff, no Info Highway it only help your to get the third one one tour faster, not enougth in my mind for 3 master slot. no political strangleold, you have no action to do that. Get one villein and 1/2 rego motus more I agree TTC has few deck could realy handle agressive deck and also win the game. In this tournment I only die once by a nephandi deck again I had no solution. And your also rigth I have no realy arme again weenie. But for the intercep, the bowl and the rest should easly make the jobs (I hope ) Best regard Chuck Norris and Superman once fought each other on a bet. The loser had to start wearing his underwear on the outside of his pants

ReverendRevolver

Yea, 18 Chirop Marauder is enough to be impressive. You have no bounce or rush, so Id say that puta you in the minority where toolboxy walls are concerned. And I respect TTC and everything, but 95% of the TWDA not being able to handle malk94, Giopowerbleed, or Kindred spirits bleed is a bit rediculous. Popular archetypes of the past year-ish all have trends; it may be that there are variants on Ventrue stickmen, girls variants, or some wacky shit. But, most things either run bounce, gain so much pool you need to borrow beads if you ARENT being bled hard, or theyre able to remove aggressive minions via combat of some kind. The other plan is being so aggro youre too cool to think about defense. I see this deck being able to get up to enough intercept to maybe catch a minion or two, and then eat them. Your douchebag, crosseyed, SneakyBleedSleaze-playing predator doesnt know (or need to know) that you arent able to eat his ENTIRE ready region. But, as stated, 10 player tourneys allow weird stuff to happen. Any tournament can shock the hell out of somebody with a mono-nagaraja deck winning. If it happens 7 more times I get suspicious. Neither here nor there, congrats on winning with something you dont see everyday.

Timo

> BenPeal wrote: > YMMV (Your Metagame May Vary) > > guilhem wrote: > 2) The royal rumble is usely a warzone tournement, and it was also the case this year. There was no S&B or swarm deck and only one multi action vote&bleed deck. > Here is the summary. Royal Rumble is indeed traditionaly in Paris a very heavy combat tournament. And actually, even "normal" Paris tournament will see more heavy combat than B&S.

TapeTaChatte

> guilhem wrote: > > You can do fat villein > IC Organized play coordinator Please contact me with any OP query using the mail in my profile

TapeTaChatte

> ReverendRevolver wrote: > 95% of the TWDA not being able to handle malk94, Giopowerbleed, or Kindred spirits bleed > Apart from Giovanni powerbleed which is not included, because as the name refers it is not a stealth bleed, all the decks you cite cannot handle Kindred spirits bleed or Malk 94 by themselves. !ventrue for example will buy enough time to find an help on the table, get a vp sometimes, try to turn the tables and so on, but if nobody helps him, he will die eventually to the S/B who is going to run the table after. The key to stop S/B is the help of other players, it is not a bounce or a villein that is going to help you against a guy who pulls out 1 vampire/turn, bleeds you for X vampires x 4 pools and gain 1 pool in the process because you just bounces him and never blocks him. IC Organized play coordinator Please contact me with any OP query using the mail in my profile

ReverendRevolver

Define help from the table. Girls decks bloat enough to honestly not care once they get rolling. If you run 6-8 deflections, its possible you get your vp before KS gets you, and probable for bleed decks with DOM(you send bigger bleeds, and yoir grand predator doesnt have 1 pool more to deal with for every bleed. If you mean remove the minion from being a problem, rush combat decks are the most likely to be able to cope. Or someone with a few rushes amd aggpokes. Or the deus ex machina of "prayer crosstable buddies when being bledat stealth": Valarious and his no obf text. I had a week where I torped and graverobbed Korah 3 times in seperate days with 2 different decks. That month I controlles a G2 antimalk like 7 times and never played g2 antimalks.... Ive said for ages combat is a needed counterbalance to big bleeders, but are you saying its the only way to deal with aggro bleeders? This deck, for instance, may catch one dude and eat them on thier feet. Often, thats a psychological deterrent. If it happens twice you assume its what the deck "does" and get conservative. But with no rushes, arw you saying noone can deal with aggo bleeders? Obviously, good walls stop Giopowerbleed more easily than they attempt to stop sneakybleed, since Matthias/Anatole/Carna with a bowl stops basically the whole stealthplan of necromancy if you eaglesight after they use the block fail, but even those walls typically are struggling to pull that last intercept.