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Summon IC

8 messages from 4 participants · 12 July 2011 – 13 July 2011 · vekn.net/forum
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Ankha

Deck Name : Summon IC Author : Ankha Description : How do you intend to oust? By bleeding for 3 at stealth with the 11-cap. There are some votes to deal damage too. How do you intend to keep from being ousted? Not spending to much pool, regaining pool with votes (Political Stranglehold, Ancient Influence) and Deflecting a little. Having votes also to protect myself from votes against me. Ezmeralda can also help regaining 11 pool. What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)? Synesios with the Ankara, Ian Forestal with TEM (using Infernal Pact and Spontaneous Power), two fatties (IC or Great Beast) What do you want your average turn to look like? In the first turns, Synesions either get Ankara or Ian right away. In the following turns, Synesions gains back some blood (using Abactor) and plays a SH to bring back an IC. Ian Forestal has access to all the cards in the deck, but won't be able to play SH at superior (not enought blood). NB: there could be some Renewed Vigor, but I want to try it with Abactor only. What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play? All kind of decks. What problems have you observed with the deck in play? No tested yet, but it's a mind-twisting deck that may take time to start. How to play the deck Bring out Synesios. Then, you have two options: - fetch Ian Forestal if you have an Infernal Pact/Spontaneous Power in hand and you're in a hurry - fetch the Ankara if you have time Then, you'll have to regain back blood. Depending on the votes on the table, use Abactor or just hunt. The first vampire to Summon may be an IC if you need votes. There are few combo: - Hourglass of the Mind + SH allows you to get the Ankara even if you have it in hand. HotM + Scrounging allows you to shuffle your library - Call the Great Beast + Hutzilopochtli. The Great Beast should have TEM DOM OBF (Mylan can untap Huitzilopochtli so the Great Beast arrives in 1 turn). - Outside the Hourglass + Domain of Evernight (great as usual). OtH also provides combat defense, and DoE some stealth - Scarlet Lore allows Ian to get the Great Beast or any useful minion card. - Wash + Synesios' special allows you to Wash a master and get 2 MPA the next turn - If Ian is there and already have Infernal Pact, you can use the Spontaneous Power to give OBF to Synesios, or myt Notes about the crypt: With the current ratio (12/26 Synesios), the probability to have Synesios in starting crypt is 93,3% All other vampires are in 2 copies because SH only search the crypt. Having a vampire twice in the starting crypt is unlikely. Crypt [26 vampires] Capacity min: 8 max: 11 average: 9.30769 12x Synesios (8) 2 votesTrue Brujah(group 2) 2x Arika (11) inner circleVentrue(group 2) 2x Etrius (11) inner circleTremere(group 2) 2x Ezmerelda (11) 2 votesRavnos(group 2) 2x Harrod (11) inner circleNosferatu(group 2) 2x Leandro (11) inner circleMalkavian(group 2) 2x Huitzilopochtli (10) Baali(group 2) 2x Ian Forestal (8) Tremere antitribu(group 2) Library [73 cards] Action [26] 6x Abactor 1x Call the Great Beast 6x Hourglass of the Mind 1x Scarlet Lore 2x Scrounging 10x Summon History Action Modifier [16] 10x Domain of Evernight 6x Into Thin Air Ally [1] 1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin) Combat [6] 6x Outside the Hourglass Equipment [1] 1x Ankara Citadel, Turkey, The Master [14] 1x Archon Investigation 1x Coven, The 3x Infernal Pact 1x Monastery of Shadows 1x Pentex(TM) Subversion 3x Spontaneous Power 1x Tabriz Assembly 3x Wash Political Action [7] 1x Anarchist Uprising 1x Ancient Influence 1x Ancilla Empowerment 1x Neonate Breach 1x Political Stranglehold 1x Reckless Agitation 1x Reins of Power Reaction [2] 2x Deflection Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Boris The Blade

No master blood gain ? You need at least Giant's Blood and maybe a Perfectionnist or 2. I think I would go for Two Wrongs rather than Wash: you need to survive more than to cancel other players' bloat cards. Since almost everyone has , maybe you could also play a couple of Voter Captivation for refill.

Pascal Bertrand

I think a couple of Banishments could be useful. I found the lack of Gwendolyn shocking. Apart from her, Stanislava should clearly be in there. Ur-Shulgi (Haqim's Law) or Sutekh can be used too.

brandonsantacruz

-Into Thin Air is not as good as Lost in Crowds for this deck because empty vampires don't have the blood to benefit from the blood burning effect. -Call the Great Beast would work best if you had a better way to put blood on your guys. -Might want 2-3x Ankara Citadel to deal with it getting burned. -Giant's Blood has to go in this deck, Perfectionist was a good idea for Synesios, too. You could double-up on coven and maybe include some life in the city. -Maybe a couple change of target for empty hunting dudes. -Staredown is a good card for guys with PRE and no/little blood. -Learjet instead of scrounging? Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. -Friedrich Nietzsche brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/

Pascal Bertrand

> brandonsantacruz wrote: > -Into Thin Air is not as good as Lost in Crowds for this deck because empty vampires don't have the blood to benefit from the blood burning effect. > I think 1 stealth isn't enough. Into Thin Air is an option to get 2 stealth. I like it here. > brandonsantacruz wrote: > -Might want 2-3x Ankara Citadel to deal with it getting burned. > Just Summon it back.

Ankha

> Pascal wrote: > > > brandonsantacruz wrote: > > -Into Thin Air is not as good as Lost in Crowds for this deck because empty vampires don't have the blood to benefit from the blood burning effect. > > > I think 1 stealth isn't enough. Into Thin Air is an option to get 2 stealth. I like it here. > Exactly. I worked well yesterday against Howler + Raven Spy and Donal's 2nd Trad. > Pascal wrote: > > > brandonsantacruz wrote: > > -Might want 2-3x Ankara Citadel to deal with it getting burned. > > > Just Summon it back. > Yeah. > Pascal wrote: > I think a couple of Banishments could be useful. > I found the lack of Gwendolyn shocking. Apart from her, Stanislava should clearly be in there. Ur-Shulgi (Haqim's Law) or Sutekh can be used too. > Banishment would be useful, sure, maybe replacing Neonate Breach. Gwendolyn hasn't obfuscate, Stanislava has a built-in "no allies block" which could do the trick. Anyway, I'm not going to summon more than 3 IC during a game so it's not very useful to add more IC. > brandonsantacruz wrote: > Call the Great Beast would work best if you had a better way to put blood on your guys. > -Might want 2-3x Ankara Citadel to deal with it getting burned. > -Giant's Blood has to go in this deck, Perfectionist was a good idea for Synesios, too. You could double-up on coven and maybe include some life in the city. > -Maybe a couple change of target for empty hunting dudes. > -Staredown is a good card for guys with PRE and no/little blood. > -Learjet instead of scrounging? > The Great Beast is just there to bleed/rush. It can play SH also but it's not the main idea because it is a 9-cap (it can summon Ian though) Moot Why not. I'd like to keep the deck thin though. No, it would mean a turn lost. I prefer to add more stealth. Outside the Hourglass is there to protect. Not a bad idea, to test. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Pascal Bertrand

> Ankha wrote: > > > Pascal wrote: > > > > > brandonsantacruz wrote: > > > -Into Thin Air is not as good as Lost in Crowds for this deck because empty vampires don't have the blood to benefit from the blood burning effect. > > > > > I think 1 stealth isn't enough. Into Thin Air is an option to get 2 stealth. I like it here. > > > Exactly. I worked well yesterday against Howler + Raven Spy and Donal's 2nd Trad. > ? How come Synesios get past Howler with a Raven Spy, or Constanza's 2nd Trad? I guess these guys are cheesy targets for DoE/OtH...

Ankha

> Pascal wrote: > > > Ankha wrote: > > > > > Pascal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brandonsantacruz wrote: > > > > -Into Thin Air is not as good as Lost in Crowds for this deck because empty vampires don't have the blood to benefit from the blood burning effect. > > > > > > > I think 1 stealth isn't enough. Into Thin Air is an option to get 2 stealth. I like it here. > > > > > Exactly. I worked well yesterday against Howler + Raven Spy and Donal's 2nd Trad. > > > ? > How come Synesios get past Howler with a Raven Spy, or Constanza's 2nd Trad? I guess these guys are cheesy targets for DoE/OtH... > Yeah, but when I have only Synesios, I prefer to make the action succeed and have an IC pal rather than sending Howler or Constanza to torpor. When the IC are out, THEN I will use the combo and diablerize them. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director