My report from the Swedish ECQ this weekend can be found at
Stockholm Jyhad
Thanks to the organizers and all participants!
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Congrats to Marko for winning the day!
Great to see that Erik was again playing in the tournament, as just a couple of weeks ago I was think had this brilliant player actually quit the game. I was somewhat puzzled by the description of his deck ("Nergal slow turbo stealth-bleed") What the heck is a "slow turbo"!?
You seemed to be preying on Finnish gals a lot during the tournament.But you got the name for one in the first round wrong -it is Niina, not Tiina
Finnish Politics!
> Lönkka wrote:
> Congrats to Marko for winning the day!
>
> Great to see that Erik was again playing in the tournament, as just a couple of weeks ago I was think had this brilliant player actually quit the game. I was somewhat puzzled by the description of his deck ("Nergal slow turbo stealth-bleed") What the heck is a "slow turbo"!?
>
> You seemed to be preying on Finnish gals a lot during the tournament.But you got the name for one in the first round wrong -it is Niina, not Tiina
>
Sorry, I´ll fix that!
Yes, good to see Erik back, although he refused to let me oust him
I thought slow turbo was a known deck type. It´s not really a turbo, but with Call the Great Beast + lots of Freak Drives, it´s gets kind of "slow turbo" He used Summoning for multiple Infernal Servitors, among other tricks. The deck list should be up soon.
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
> Ashur wrote:
> Yes, good to see Erik back, although he refused to let me oust him
>
The audacity of that man!
> Ashur wrote:
> I thought slow turbo was a known deck type.
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News to me at least but that doesn't really prove anything...
Finnish Politics!
> Ashur wrote:
> Congrats to Marko for winning the day!
>
> The deck list should be up soon.
>
I can't wait to see it. The 'slow turbo" thing got me thinking.
Keep walking...
> alek wrote:
> Nice report. I would love to see finalists's deck lists.
>
Can we have the TWD ?
Prince of Paris, France
Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
> Ankha wrote:
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> > alek wrote:
> > Nice report. I would love to see finalists's deck lists.
> >
> Can we have the TWD ?
>
Here you go. I think that there were 27 players and three rounds and a final was played.
Deck name: The Finnish wall
Player: Marko Lindroos
Vampire (12) [Min: 8 Max: 36 Avg: 6,00]
1 Caliban ANI AUS VIC 6 Sabbat
1 Corine Marcón ani AUS VIC 6 Sabbat
1 Devin Bisley vic ANI AUS 5 Sabbat
2 Little Tailor of Prague dem ANI AUS VIC 8 Sabbat
4 Stravinsky pot ANI AUS VIC 9 Sabbat Archbishop of Mexico City
3 Tupdog POT VIS 1 Sabbat. Tremere antitribu slave
Master (14)
3 Blood Doll
3 Dabbler
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Fame
1 Giant's Blood
2 Pentex(TM) Subversion
2 Villein
Action (10)
2 Abbot
5 Deep Song
1 Under Siege
2 Zillah's Tears
Equipment (4)
1 Bowl of Convergence
2 Heart of Nizchetus
1 Ivory Bow
Retainer (3)
1 Corpse Balloon
1 J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1 Tasha Morgan
Action Modifier (11)
5 Changeling
6 Mind of the Wilds
Reaction (19)
2 Eagle's Sight
5 Eyes of Argus
1 My Enemy's Enemy
1 On the Qui Vive
3 Read the Winds
2 Sense the Savage Way
1 Spirit's Touch
4 Telepathic Misdirection
Combat (15)
4 Breath of the Dragon
1 Canine Horde
4 Carrion Crows
6 Chiropteran Marauder
Marko, Prince of Helsinki
> a-e wrote:
> 4 Stravinsky pot ANI AUS VIC 9 Sabbat Archbishop of Mexico City
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Mainly because of the cool pic right?
>
> a-e wrote:
> 2 Zillah's Tears
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Whyyyyyy?!
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
> Ashur wrote:
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> > a-e wrote:
> > 4 Stravinsky pot ANI AUS VIC 9 Sabbat Archbishop of Mexico City
> >
> Mainly because of the cool pic right?
> >
> > a-e wrote:
> > 2 Zillah's Tears
> >
> Whyyyyyy?!
>
Stravinsky is, last i cheked, cheap in bulk
Tears is good. Ish. Like 7% of the time its good.
I run it in my infinate earth meld taylor/ghoulet/satyrs deck.
> Ashur wrote:
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> > a-e wrote:
> > 4 Stravinsky pot ANI AUS VIC 9 Sabbat Archbishop of Mexico City
> >
> Mainly because of the cool pic right?
>
Cool pic yeah, and +1 bleed.
> Ashur wrote:
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> > a-e wrote:
> > 2 Zillah's Tears
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> Whyyyyyy?!
>
Why not? Untap from burning it is something that most people don't realize can be done on your own turn also, and when people forget that they count it wrong what you can do. Also when you have it on your vamp some people stop doing some actions cause they see that I don't even need to play card from my hand to block them. And if I burn it to be able to block something, many take that as "There went the tears, so he must be out of wakes" and they become reckless with their actions.
All in all, it's a good card if you use it right.
Marko, Prince of Helsinki
> a-e wrote:
> Why not? Untap from burning it is something that most people don't realize can be done on your own turn also, and when people forget that they count it wrong what you can do. Also when you have it on your vamp some people stop doing some actions cause they see that I don't even need to play card from my hand to block them. And if I burn it to be able to block something, many take that as "There went the tears, so he must be out of wakes" and they become reckless with their actions.
>
> All in all, it's a good card if you use it right.
>
Good points, all. It does mess with peoples "math", and that is always funny. It´s just that we played with it alot when it was new, and everybody in that group kind of learned how it works and all the tricks. But maybe it´s time to try it again.
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Isak, Randy, it would be nice to see the Archons uploaded and approved ... B-)
Tusen tack!
National Coordinator Germany nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de
> Ashur wrote:
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> > a-e wrote:
> > 4 Stravinsky pot ANI AUS VIC 9 Sabbat Archbishop of Mexico City
> >
> Mainly because of the cool pic right?
> >
> > a-e wrote:
> > 2 Zillah's Tears
> >
> Whyyyyyy?!
>
I think Zillah´s Tears is a good card because of it´s potential to "pre-load" an effect. This allows to concentrate more effects than usual in a certain time frame, good for making lunges which are sometimes the only way to score a VP. Say you have an aggressive predator and three minions, so you can´t afford to tap out. You can tap one and play ZT in turn X and bleed for one or so. Then you can probably tap everyone in turn X+1, because you have that untap ready in addition to the ones in your hand.
Also see what Orian has to say about it, he calls it "the acceleration turn".
ttcmaster.blogspot.de/2013_09_01_archive.html
> Dr.Mafrune wrote:
> Any chance to see the finalist decks ? I like swedish deckbuilding a lot !!
>
I like finnish deckbuilding!
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
> johannes wrote:
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> > Ashur wrote:
> >
> > > a-e wrote:
> > > 4 Stravinsky pot ANI AUS VIC 9 Sabbat Archbishop of Mexico City
> > >
> > Mainly because of the cool pic right?
> > >
> > >
> > > a-e wrote:
> > > 2 Zillah's Tears
> > >
> > Whyyyyyy?!
> >
> I think Zillah´s Tears is a good card because of it´s potential to "pre-load" an effect. This allows to concentrate more effects than usual in a certain time frame, good for making lunges which are sometimes the only way to score a VP. Say you have an aggressive predator and three minions, so you can´t afford to tap out. You can tap one and play ZT in turn X and bleed for one or so. Then you can probably tap everyone in turn X+1, because you have that untap ready in addition to the ones in your hand.
>
> Also see what Orian has to say about it, he calls it "the acceleration turn".
> ttcmaster.blogspot.de/2013_09_01_archive.html
>
Yes, I will have another go at this. I remember I did use it in some Vignes-style !Ventrue bleeder waaaay back, just for this. Then I wen´t back to Freak Drives
I might try it in my Tzimisce voter, the Danse Macabre-master card just don´t work
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."