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Member of the Entourage Question

6 messages from 4 participants · 08 July 2011 · vekn.net/forum
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erewego

Member of the Entourage Mortal with 2 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed. This ally cannot take actions. During a action directed at you, this ally may burn 1 life to get +1 intercept. Burn this ally if he successfully blocks a vampire (no combat occurs). [DRAFT]: as above. Basically, can you burn extra life to get more intercept? Even if it burns him? Example: Someone plays Entrancement and attempts to steal a Member of the Entourage at one stealth. Member of the Entourage burns a life to get 1 int to block. Entrancement gets another stealth. Can I burn another life to get another intercept, which burns Member of the Entourage causing the action to fail? Also, if I have Vagabond Mystic, is there a window in above example to add another life? Prince of New York, Adam

Pascal Bertrand

> erewego wrote: > Member of the Entourage > Mortal with 2 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed. This ally cannot take actions. During a action directed at you, this ally may burn 1 life to get +1 intercept. Burn this ally if he successfully blocks a vampire (no combat occurs). > [DRAFT]: as above. > > Basically, can you burn extra life to get more intercept? Even if it burns him? > Example: > Someone plays Entrancement and attempts to steal a Member of the Entourage at one stealth. Member of the Entourage burns a life to get 1 int to block. Entrancement gets another stealth. Can I burn another life to get another intercept, which burns Member of the Entourage causing the action to fail? > Member of Entourage can burn 1 life to get +1 intercept once per action ("During X do Y" template). With a Member of Entourage having 1 life at the beginning of the action, if it burns 1 life to get +1 intercept in this action, it burns (provided it doesn't gain life in between). If the action was sup' Far Mastery, it fizzles (no cost is paid). > erewego wrote: > Also, if I have Vagabond Mystic, is there a window in above example to add another life? > > Prince of New York, > Adam > If the acting minion plays inf' Crocodile's Tongue, there is a window after burning the life to cancel CT, and before burning a blood for +1 intercept.

erewego

Thanks... but why can I only do it once? Wording seems similar to Maris Streck Camarilla Justicar: Maris can burn a blood to give a blocking minion +1 intercept. She can take a +1 stealth action to allow you to look at and rearrange the top 5 cards of your library. So if the Member of the Entourage has 3 life (or 4 or 5...) I can't burn more then one life as the stealth is increased?

Ankha

Because Maris lacks the "During X do Y" template. In VTES, this template limits to once per X the use of Y. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Pascal Bertrand

> erewego wrote: > Thanks... but why can I only do it once? Wording seems similar to Maris Streck > Camarilla Justicar: Maris can burn a blood to give a blocking minion +1 intercept. She can take a +1 stealth action to allow you to look at and rearrange the top 5 cards of your library. > Wording is slightly different. Maris' cardtext doesn't involve "During". Therefore, you can use any number of times to get intercept in an action. "During X do Y" is a template used in several cards that limits the possibilities of doing X to once per X. Usual examples: Temptation (it only adds 1 counter per Master Phase), Blood Doll (it doesn't work like Minion Tap), sup' Drawing out the Beast doesn't inflict several damage during the press step, .. > erewego wrote: > So if the Member of the Entourage has 3 life (or 4 or 5...) I can't burn more then one life as the stealth is increased? > Can't burn more than 1 life to get intercept per its cardtext, correct.

Izaak

Now that you're the new rules guy can we get Maris Streck her special re-ruled to be no longer broken?