faithfull servant

Does anyone know why a faithfull servant costs 2 blood? In mhy meta i spen dalot of time in torpor and would like to use Her, but 2 blood, should be free IMO.. Any disagreeers?

> delangen wrote: > Does anyone know why a faithfull servant costs 2 blood? In mhy meta i spen dalot of time in torpor and would like to use Her, but 2 blood, should be free IMO.. > > Any disagreeers? > Because of bad design. It's an old card, and if it were designed today, it would surely be different. Renewed Vigor at [for], Humanitas or Catacombs are far better cards. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

The first expansion, Dark Sovereigns, is full of wallpaper like that. Way too expensive cards (blood/pool cost) possibly even combined with someone being able to use an action to burn it. Probably they thought that this way they'd at least avoid overpowered cards... Finnish Politics!

Also remember Frondator. So you can rescue minions for cheap/free with Humanitas + Catacombs OR Frondator + Catacombs OR Frondator + Humanitas OR Root of Vitality OR Recure the Homeland OR Sense Vitality OR Renewed Vigor OR Warding the Beast OR Resume the Coil OR Lord of Serenity OR Healing Touch OR Rapid Healing OR Chantry Retired Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418

The whole point of Faithful Servant is to not leave torpor. Sadly, then someone rescues you and makes you pay and your bloat engine is screwed. Traveller Card Game

> ICL wrote: > The whole point of Faithful Servant is to not leave torpor. Sadly, then someone rescues you and makes you pay and your bloat engine is screwed. > You can play Secure Haven on a vampire in torpor, preventing D action rescues. Carver's Meat Packing Plant prevents rescues, if your minion is small enough. It's not great tech, but hey, you're already starting with the craptastic Faithful Servant, so what do you expect?

So you influence Rosemarie and you play Carver, then you play Faithful Servant and bleed for 3 with a force of will, you play a vessel on rosemarie and now, you have every turn 1 free pool + 1 free blood (of course, if someone burn you hostage counter, you just have to begin anew but no combo is perfect). And with only a 4 cards combo ! I think I will make a deck with this combo. And quickly before Faithful servant get banned !

> delangen wrote: > Does anyone know why a faithfull servant costs 2 blood? In mhy meta i spen dalot of time in torpor and would like to use Her, but 2 blood, should be free IMO.. > > Any disagreeers? > Maybe the designers feared the Faithful Servant + Eyes of the Dead combo.... Andreas Thomasson Prince of Linköping

> Nightbringer wrote: > Maybe the designers feared the Faithful Servant + Eyes of the Dead combo.... > Actually, there were moderately annoying things you could do at the time involving torpor-diving. In particular, torporizing yourself to kick off Fame was a thing, because Fame was a very different card. And you had people doing things with Fortitude for Day Op + Freak. The Gangrel infinite loop was one of the early problem decks - and is one of the reasons why the Tournament Rules got the No Repeat Actions rule in them which, bizarrely, wasn't part of the basic game. Even in that environment, it was pretty seriously overcosted, especially given that they created Palatial Estate at the same time which is essentially the same basic card. And, while expensive, Palatial Estate is not the worst card on earth - it even turns up in the TWDA quite a few times. Presumably there was a thought process that went something like "Oh, Palatial Estate is unique. But Faithful Servant is non-unique. So we need a restriction on Faithful Servant. Ooh, let's pick the most annoying restriction ever!"

> ICL wrote: > The whole point of Faithful Servant is to not leave torpor. Sadly, then someone rescues you and makes you pay and your bloat engine is screwed. > I've seen you do it, and it is true. Also over investing in the trick merely puts neon signs on it. Discretion and patience gets away with more things...

you play Faithful Servant, and now everyone at the table will be strongly reluctant to send that vampire to torpor, because OBVIOUSLY you're up to something.

That is why I play Tzimisce in my Faithful Servant deck, to be able to send my vampire to torpor with Breath of the Dragon. V:EKN Website Coordinator