Module for Imbued Deck - Desalle and Entrancement and WMO?

Hi guys, I was messing around with my Imbued Deck, and thought of a possible module: DeSalle, Entrancement, and Waste Management Operation. Why: The idea is using her to steal back imbued; or to steal other Imbued on the table using Entrancement and her native +1 stealth to steal at +2 stealth. The Entrancements can also be used as +bleed if there are no allies on the table worth stealing. DeSalle can also help out when you need a vampire - Ancient Influence, Reins of Power, etc. etc. Finally, WMO can be a good card to use instead of Ashur Tablets because a) won't burn if someone else is playing them (and WMO is rarely played anyway). b) only takes up 1 card slot instead of 3. Reason I'd need this in my particular Imbued deck - I play Flash Grenades and White phosphorous grenades, and this will allow those cards to come back to me, as well as the Angel of Berlins and Concealed Weapons. Module: 2 DeSalle 1 WMO 2-3 Entrancements Thoughts? Am I crazy?

> librarian wrote: > Hi guys, > > I was messing around with my Imbued Deck, and thought of a possible module: > DeSalle, Entrancement, and Waste Management Operation. > > Why: The idea is using her to steal back imbued; or to steal other Imbued on the table using Entrancement and her native +1 stealth to steal at +2 stealth. The Entrancements can also be used as +bleed if there are no allies on the table worth stealing. > DeSalle can also help out when you need a vampire - Ancient Influence, Reins of Power, etc. etc. > > Finally, WMO can be a good card to use instead of Ashur Tablets because a) won't burn if someone else is playing them (and WMO is rarely played anyway). b) only takes up 1 card slot instead of 3. Reason I'd need this in my particular Imbued deck - I play Flash Grenades and White phosphorous grenades, and this will allow those cards to come back to me, as well as the Angel of Berlins and Concealed Weapons. > > Module: > 2 DeSalle > 1 WMO > 2-3 Entrancements > > Thoughts? Am I crazy? > Built-in "steal ally" may be better (Xeper, Xipe Totec or merged Goulet). Why Desalle? Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

Great idea for your opponents: Since you start with 2 Imbued fewer to pay for DeSalle, they don't even need to steal your minions any more.

Regardless the vampire you use, it is a huge pool cost for any imbued deck. Besides, they can defend themselves very well against robbers. 2 or 3 static intercept, React With Conviction, Determine or plain old Direct Intervention are things that solve your problem and you would use on your deck anyway. If theft is such a concern in your meta, get Keith Moody for Far Mastery with added bonus Deflections and the occasional Empowering the Puppet King. Rejuvenate him regularly or pop a Jake Washington. But still, if someone Entrances your guys, just block them and torpor them. Use the React with Conviction to cancel the Majesties. Usually they learn the lesson.

I have used the combination of Liquidation and Waste Management Operation in my pre-Ashur "Twist with Conviction" deck. The WMO was kind of moot, since almost always the game was won or lost before my deck was empty and the WMO could kick in. So in my experience, it's not worth it. Liquidation + Ashurs + Parthenon, on the other hand, packs a huge punch! If you want to have a vampire defending your Imbued, try Midget with Striga and Scobax! ("Imbued Nerds Worship Satan") And don't forget the outferior of Scobax (reduce a bleed by 1) as I did... And as for Midget being Infernal, it doesn't matter if he never taps!

Only reason to use DeSalle is for built in stealth and access to WMO for relatively low cost. Xeper won't work due to grouping.

Its easier to splash imbued lije beatrice into a vamp deck. Less divide in rhe deck. And other imbued will probably have unmasking and other intercept. So Desalle isnt super impressive.

> librarian wrote: > Only reason to use DeSalle is for built in stealth and access to WMO for relatively low cost. > > Xeper won't work due to grouping. > What about the twilight rebellion Ventrue with ally steal? Juniper Group 4 Ventrue 6-cap FOR ani dom pre FOR Capacity: 6 Camarilla: Juniper may steal an ally controlled by your predator or prey as a +1 stealth action. You could run 2x her, 2x anarch convert and 1x Steely Tenacity (never sees play, what a great opportunity!) Edit: Why not call it "honorary imbued"? Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. -Friedrich Nietzsche brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/

> librarian wrote: > Only reason to use DeSalle is for built in stealth and access to WMO for relatively low cost. > > Xeper won't work due to grouping. > I missed the "steal back" part. Well, I agree with others, just pack in some Champion or DI. Prince of Paris, France Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director

> brandonsantacruz wrote: > > > librarian wrote: > > Only reason to use DeSalle is for built in stealth and access to WMO for relatively low cost. > > > > Xeper won't work due to grouping. > > > What about the twilight rebellion Ventrue with ally steal? > > Juniper > Group 4 Ventrue > 6-cap > FOR ani dom pre FOR > Capacity: 6 > Camarilla: Juniper may steal an ally controlled by your predator or prey as a +1 stealth action. > > You could run 2x her, 2x anarch convert and 1x Steely Tenacity (never sees play, what a great opportunity!) > > Edit: Why not call it "honorary imbued"? > Brandon, I seriously almost suggested her, but realized it would be arguing against what i said in the rest of my post. She has awesome big fortitude, can play army of rats, and steals at stealth. Shes the best vamp to include if you go that route. But, merged Gouhlet is the only built in stealer with a reasonable chance to generate loads of stealth in the grouping, so hes the best if you dedicate lots of the deck to it. And he can play horrific countenance, for when you REALLY dont want blocked. But hes costly. So is Juniper. You can even run pentient resilience with juniper and she can flash grenade in a pinch, but its still 6 pool for her, and unmasking makes 1 stealth matter very little. Her, with rats is good. Then, pentient resilience if you grenade, or suppressing fire if you sniper rifle, to make her steal better. Or, Running imbued with vamps, cutting in 2-3x strike with conviction, one or two each of react and second sight, and it runs smooth. Beatrice is good if you run ome imbued, or flame61 and Ticket213 if you run 2. Due to the deck they end up in, the drawbacks matter less, since adding either setup to most combat decks give cheap bleeders and day blockers, and in Flame61's case, a cheap gun toter.