There appear to be a few rush guys in G3-4...

Posting a lot this week it seems... Well, we have played often and there's a big tournament upcoming. I just noticed how many POT rush guys there are in G3-4. And in addition to these there would still be Massassi and Jeremy McNeil ADV, who were left out due to not having Animalism nor +Strength. So the plan goes as follows : devastate your predator, bloat, transfer out more rush guys. Play safe. There's 4 Gustaphes because he's the fastest to transfer out, and 4 Enkidu's because he's the strongest. While you may think it's unrealistic to transfer out every one of them, I'm an optimist and it would be just so cool It attempts to oust an prey who has no minions left to defend with bleeds. I have had a similar deck with Black Annis and Enkidu that could do that, it just had a pretty different combat that mostly aimed for burning minions and had 10 Flesh of Marbles and 10 Drawings. The combat module should be obvious. I don't think there's a lot of decks that are safe from that. Well there are some things, such as aggropokes and set range combat end, both which I consider so infrequent I don't care about them. What else... Nothing I suppose, this is also a deck that I have not tried once. Somehow it seems like such a good idea in my head. Note that just Gustaphe and Enkidu in a situation where you just can't bring out more are still pretty intimidating rush minions. Deck Name : pum Author : Demnogonis Description : Hahaha! Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 8 max: 11 average: 9.41667 4x Enkidu, The Noah 11 ANI CEL OBF POT PRO for !Gangrel:4 4x Gustaphe Brunnelle 8 ANI DOM POT obf primogen Nosferatu:4 2x Black Annis 9 OBF POT ani pro !Nosferatu:4 1x Karsh 10 ANI CEL FOR POT PRO Gangrel:3 1x Jacques Molay 9 CEL POT PRE obf val !Brujah:4 Library [90 cards] Action Modifier/Combat [6] 6x Swallowed by the Night Combat [61] 3x Claws of the Dead 12x Carrion Crows 2x Fists of Death 14x Immortal Grapple 4x Pursuit 8x Taste of Vitae 8x Thrown Sewer Lid 10x Torn Signpost Equipment [1] 1x Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers Event [1] 1x Dragonbound Master [18] 1x Animalism 2x Fame 1x Giant's Blood 1x Information Highway 1x Wider View 3x Lilith's Blessing 8x Villein 1x Secure Haven Retainer [3] 1x J. S. Simmons, Esq. 1x Robert Carter 1x Tasha Morgan Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Jul 06 00:35:54 2011]

61 combat cards... including 4 manuevers and 8 presses... pretty much anyone with a .44 magnum and handful of celerity can wreck you. Bone Spurs, Fists of Death, and Lids should all be more cards that help you get to close range. Like change lids to slams, an bone spurs and fists to mighty grapples for example. That aside, I don't really see how this deck can survive any half decent predator. Unless you draw that single info highway to start, you will most likely get your first guy out by turn 3, and second at turn 5 or 6. You also have no multiacting for your fatties, so even if you somehow do manage to survive your predator, you would have to go full backwards while your prey runs over the table.

14 IGs and 8 Lids? It's either long range or close range, you can't have both, and you probably won't be facing 22 rounds of combats with this deck. Remove the Codex. It's probably the easiest way of getting your guy burned to AI. Add some Drawing out the Beast / Terror Frenzies. That'll shut the CEL decks down (guns or Richter)

He's hoping to gain pool back quickly from Villein. I don't know how many games I've had a deck with 8-10 copies of a card and have never drawn it... risky plan. I'd drop 1-2xLilith's Blessing for Dreams, fit in an Archon Investigation, drop the retainers (no spare actions), change the lids to slams, bone spurs to claws of the dead, drop in some glancing blows and either some fake-outs or pursuits. oh, how about protected resources and scourge of the enochians? Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one. -Friedrich Nietzsche brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/

> floppyzedolfin wrote: > Remove the Codex. > Certainly not! After you've torporized everyone bleeding for one isnät an option when prey has plentiful pool. Finnish Politics!

Perhaps focus more on Enkidu and Karsh and add some Forced March?

> Lönkka wrote: > > > floppyzedolfin wrote: > > Remove the Codex. > > > Certainly not! > After you've torporized everyone bleeding for one isnät an option when prey has plentiful pool. > OK, then it's metagame. I wouldn't dare launch a bleed for 4. It might cost me my vampire and my ousting card.

I agree with previous poster about your lack of maneuvers, for this reason I think Claws of the Dead would be a better choice than Bone Spur. A couple of camera phones would be better than a single Codex. In another deck, you can afford to risk losing a vampire to AI, but your guys are all too high capacity. Monster is an ideal card for this deck. If you add Monster, than a couple of Deep Songs for either multi-rush or extra bleeding would be useful.

Mh, yeah, let's rather have Claws. But about that maneuver thing, Enkidu and Black Annis can use Swallowed for maneuver, and generally this deck deals five damage from long range. Thrown Sever Lid is a choice that stems from from the experience that no amount of maneuvers will be enough. Think about Sniper Rifle, Cailean, why not even Assamites... I don't know what's a half-decent predator in your books, if the metagame would be full of weenie S&B then sure, but from my last experiences with Enkidu/Black Annis deck I think the concept is viable. My perception of the metagame (local or tournament) is that it's so fatty heavy I don't worry about weenie decks. I can't worry about AI of all things A lot of times I have found that I don't want Slam in my hand, but Thrown Sever Lid. I can't focus more on Karsh, he can't rush most of the best minions in the game Hm. Could you do such a deck based around multiple monsters? Multirush that has to draw an archetype to work, hm.