Is Carolina immune to 'untap' damage from Abyssal Hunter or Wendell Delburton?
> Carolina Vález
> Clan: Lasombra
> Group: 5
> Capacity: 9
> Discipline: aus DOM OBT POT PRE
> Sabbat Archbishop of Montreal: Carolina is immune to damage from allies and retainers.
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> Abyssal Hunter
> Cardtype: Ally
> Clan: Lasombra
> Cost: 2 pool
> Demon with 4 life. 3 strength, 0 bleed.
> Hunter can inflict 1 damage on any minion as a action. During your untap phase, a ready vampire you control takes 1 damage. Burn the hunter if any ranged aggravated damage is done to him, even if it is prevented.
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> Wendell Delburton (Hunter)
> Cardtype: Ally
> Cost: 3 pool
> Unique mortal with 3 life. 0 strength, 0 bleed.
> Wendell may strike for 2R damage. He gets one optional maneuver each combat and inflicts +2 damage with melee weapons. He may enter combat with a minion controlled by another Methuselah as a action. During your untap phase, if Wendell has 2 or fewer life, add 1 life. During your untap phase, a ready vampire you control takes 2 unpreventable damage.
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Along similar lines, Mictlantechuhlti is immune to the damage you inflict on one of your own minions from Talbot's Chainsaw, which is pretty similar.
That is, "immune to damage from a [whatever]" doesn't mean "damage dealt in combat from a [whatever]" or anything like that. Any damage where [whatever] is the source? Immune.
Relevant card text:
Mictlantecuhtli is immune to damage from weapons.
Unique weapon.
Strike: 3 damage. If bearer is ready during your untap phase, a ready minion you control takes 3 unpreventable damage.
[LSJ 20090304]
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> LSJ wrote:
> > Is Mictlantecuhtli immune to Talbot's Chainsaw's untap damage
> > effects?
>
> Yes. Talbot's Chainsaw is a weapon.
> Damage from Talbot's Chainsaw is damage from a weapon.
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Ok, thanks for the replies.
> ReverendRevolver wrote:
> Also, micty can mots for the chainsaw, and carolina can summon said allies. Just a thought.
>
Yes, the question started when i built a deck with the Carolina 'combo' and another player wanted a confirmation.
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> Bayou wrote:
> Ok, thanks for the replies.
>
> > ReverendRevolver wrote:
> > Also, micty can mots for the chainsaw, and carolina can summon said allies. Just a thought.
> >
> Yes, the question started when i built a deck with the Carolina 'combo' and another player wanted a confirmation.
>
Sweet. CVS on her is the start of lots of problems for other players.
Marcus Vitel is the only vamp ive ever had summon Abyssal Hunter. And that was once in a casual game, tryimg to draw more nocturns.
Another, super obscure thing:
If Sonya Blue is clan impersonating Baali, and blocks Carolina, then play Bloodstorm of Chorazin, does carolina take the damage? Sonja blocks as an ally, but im unsure in the source of the damage or the windoexit happens in.
Same thing with those two and car bomb
> ReverendRevolver wrote:
> Another, super obscure thing:
> If Sonya Blue is clan impersonating Baali, and blocks Carolina, then play Bloodstorm of Chorazin, does carolina take the damage? Sonja blocks as an ally,
>
If Sonja chooses to block as an ally, this principally allows her to evade cards like Daring the Dawn. She doesn't become an ally for the duration of the action (a la the Grandest Trick). It basically just lets her sneak around blocker eligibility.
When she plays other cards or effects, they treat her as the vampire she is.
So when she plays Bloodstorm, she plays it as a vampire, and it resolves as a vampire, and she inflicts damage from it as a vampire.
[LSJ 20060504]
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> LSJ wrote:
> So far it's been ruled that she simply blocks as an ally could block.
> Meaning she gets past the DtD restriction. That is, only the "who is an
> eligible blocker?" is overridden (if she chooses to block as an ally).
> She can still gain intercept as the vampire she is (playing her own
> Discipline-requiring reaction cards to gain intercept, for example,
> while not being able to benefit from ally-only effects that would add
> intercept to her vampire self).
>
The bit about "ally-only effects" means she doesn't benefit from The Unmasking. (Which was in the question.)